Andro? Or... Sarm?

  1. Andro? Or... Sarm?


    Going to do a bulk log in a couple weeks. I was looking at an andro stack (i.e 1/4/or 19nor) from steel supps or sarm stack from EA (lgd and mk) any recommendations between the two or any other recommendations so that I can start a log as soon as possible. Thanks in advance.


  2. 4 Andro with Lgd would be a good combo.
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  3. Which mk. Is it mk2866 (ostarine) or is it mk677 (ibutamoren)?

  4. I would check out andro the giant and super mandro from hard rock supplements if you're interested in a 1/4 andro run. Both well dosed and there are quite a few supplement logs on them as well.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Nickespo89 View Post
    4 Andro with Lgd would be a good combo.
    This because if you're running high dose of 1/4 andro there's a down side... the body utilizes the same enzymes which means at a certain dose you cannot go any higher because you're body has used all of those enzyme it has therefore cannot convert those PHs. So by running 4 andro as test base plus LGD you will not run into as many sides and you will also get more gains making it a more efficient cycle.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Nickespo89 View Post
    Which mk. Is it mk2866 (ostarine) or is it mk677 (ibutamoren)?
    Mk677 my bad

  7. What about 19-nor andro
  8. Andro? Or... Sarm?


    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic_Stud View Post
    What about 19-nor andro
    I'd stick with LGD, 4 andro and mk677 if you're comfortable pinning maybe even igf1-des combined with the other 3. I'd want to try that cause people who logged its use had amazing gains when paired with anabolics. Although I'm not comfortable with pinning.

    Make sure you SERM when in PCT. (I'm sure you know this)

  9. Quote Originally Posted by JCR97 View Post
    I'd stick with LGD, 4 andro and mk677 if you're comfortable pinning maybe even igf1-des combined with the other 3. I'd want to try that cause people who logged its use had amazing gains when paired with anabolics. Although I'm not comfortable with pinning.

    Make sure you SERM when in PCT. (I'm sure you know this)
    This guy knows what’s up.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Nickespo89 View Post
    This guy knows what’s up.
    Thanks brotha

  11. Quote Originally Posted by JCR97 View Post
    I'd stick with LGD, 4 andro and mk677 if you're comfortable pinning maybe even igf1-des combined with the other 3. I'd want to try that cause people who logged its use had amazing gains when paired with anabolics. Although I'm not comfortable with pinning.

    Make sure you SERM when in PCT. (I'm sure you know this)
    Serm is always a must lol. So I've heard good and bad things about igf1. I also remember rich piana doing an interview about anabolics more specifically about igf1 and hgh. Good compounds with great gains but over time sides like gh gut from either compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic_Stud View Post
    Serm is always a must lol. So I've heard good and bad things about igf1. I also remember rich piana doing an interview about anabolics more specifically about igf1 and hgh. Good compounds with great gains but over time sides like gh gut from either compound.
    I feel you but since DES has a half life of about 30min if you take it in the bathroom of the gym and go straight to the weights it won't grow your gut because you're getting stimulation in your muscles and not your gut because you're not doing mechanical digestion. I think he's talking more LR3. Which has a half life of 24h. Cause I remember him saying all research peptides are bunk and enhanced athlete says LR3 easily gets damaged.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by JCR97 View Post
    I feel you but since DES has a half life of about 30min if you take it in the bathroom of the gym and go straight to the weights it won't grow your gut because you're getting stimulation in your muscles and not your gut because you're not doing mechanical digestion. I think he's talking more LR3. Which has a half life of 24h. Cause I remember him saying all research peptides are bunk and enhanced athlete says LR3 easily gets damaged.
    Ya not to sure on which exact compound of igf1 he was referring to I don't think he mentioned that. Not really into pinning myself but never tries either so who knows. Would probably be comfortable with slin pin tho lmao just cause it's small. Unless igf1 des is a think compound.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic_Stud View Post
    Ya not to sure on which exact compound of igf1 he was referring to I don't think he mentioned that. Not really into pinning myself but never tries either so who knows. Would probably be comfortable with slin pin tho lmao just cause it's small. Unless igf1 des is a think compound.
    No it's water based you can use insulin needle I've never seen insulin needles is it like vaccination ones?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by JCR97 View Post
    No it's water based you can use insulin needle I've never seen insulin needles is it like vaccination ones?
    Ya the small little ones. Super tiny

  16. Quote Originally Posted by JCR97 View Post
    I'd stick with LGD, 4 andro and mk677 if you're comfortable pinning maybe even igf1-des combined with the other 3. I'd want to try that cause people who logged its use had amazing gains when paired with anabolics. Although I'm not comfortable with pinning.

    Make sure you SERM when in PCT. (I'm sure you know this)
    So what dosing would you recommend??? I remember seeing a video from EA stating when more compounds are added into a cycle taking a little less of each compound is actually more beneficially then what you would normally dose by itself. Example being 20mg osta by itself and if taking osta and lgd would be 10mg osta and 10 or 15mg lgd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic_Stud View Post
    So what dosing would you recommend??? I remember seeing a video from EA stating when more compounds are added into a cycle taking a little less of each compound is actually more beneficially then what you would normally dose by itself. Example being 20mg osta by itself and if taking osta and lgd would be 10mg osta and 10 or 15mg lgd.
    Yeah for sure I'd do like 220mg of 4andro and 10-15mg LGD. Dose MK667 at 15mg ED and igf at 20-40mcg PRN.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by JCR97 View Post
    Yeah for sure I'd do like 220mg of 4andro and 10-15mg LGD. Dose MK667 at 15mg ED and igf at 20-40mcg PRN.
    So I was thinking almost the same thing. 15mg lgd, 20-40 mcg igf, but 10mg mk677 and 200 - 200 mg 4 andro but I'm not that familiar with andro dosing or pinning for that matter lol. Thanks for the input. Also I had a thought. I know mk677 and igf1 are two different compounds in itself but don't they have similar effects as far as stimulating GH? So why take both?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic_Stud View Post
    So I was thinking almost the same thing. 15mg lgd, 20-40 mcg igf, but 10mg mk677 and 200 - 200 mg 4 andro but I'm not that familiar with andro dosing or pinning for that matter lol. Thanks for the input. Also I had a thought. I know mk677 and igf1 are two different compounds in itself but don't they have similar effects as far as stimulating GH? So why take both?
    You will have constant high supply of igf although MKs main goal is to boost GH which converts to igf therefore you can lower your dosage of igf but I honestly think they will work synergistically. Des has a half life of 20-30min MK is 24h. MK only brings up levels by like 1.5x-2x whereas igf brings it much higher. This will for sure cause hyperplasia of muscles and then you add in the andro and anabolic and your all around solid although I'd check out I'm not sure if it's lg science or high tech but they have epicat in their andro which is a myostatin inhibitor. All that has your bases covered.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by JCR97 View Post
    You will have constant high supply of igf although MKs main goal is to boost GH which converts to igf therefore you can lower your dosage of igf but I honestly think they will work synergistically. Des has a half life of 20-30min MK is 24h. MK only brings up levels by like 1.5x-2x whereas igf brings it much higher. This will for sure cause hyperplasia of muscles and then you add in the andro and anabolic and your all around solid although I'd check out I'm not sure if it's lg science or high tech but they have epicat in their andro which is a myostatin inhibitor. All that has your bases covered.
    Myostatin inhibitor huh? Real deal or bunk is the question because I know that stuff can be expensive and hard to come by. Now the only thing to do is find a company I was gunna go through EA but was told not to😂.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic_Stud View Post
    Myostatin inhibitor huh? Real deal or bunk is the question because I know that stuff can be expensive and hard to come by. Now the only thing to do is find a company I was gunna go through EA but was told not to.
    I've been through EA we're not allowed to talk sources unless they are sponsored but all I will say is I don't have complaints. As for Épi I haven't looked at prices for the andro. If you're looking for cheap andro I'd do nutriverse Olympus Labs.

  22. Whichever you decide to run, please make sure you have everything on hand first. Make sure you have your SERM for PCT prior to starting the cycle.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    Whichever you decide to run, please make sure you have everything on hand first. Make sure you have your SERM for PCT prior to starting the cycle.
    Oh always that is a must.
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