Real or fake gear?

[Tomcatlegacy]

So just bought some gear off a buddy and it came in plastic vials. The brand is STACK pharmaceutical. Anyone ever heard of it? Am I good or not?

 

[yates84]

Plastic?! Throw it away bro. The solvents interact with plastic in real gear and will fuk you up

 

[yates84]

Please say it's at least water based please....

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

Please say it's at least water based please....

Looks like oil... can you cite something to back that it will "**** me up" I just spent a good chunk of change on this gear.

 

[yates84]

Looks like oil... can you cite something to back that it will "**** me up" I just spent a good chunk of change on this gear.

lets just say personal experience even with test e which was made with very low solvent content. I'm telling you 100% that any solvent content is gonna interact with the plastic and that is not good at all. What specific gear are we talking about?

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

lets just say personal experience even with test e which was made with very low solvent content. I'm telling you 100% that any solvent content is gonna interact with the plastic and that is not good at all. What specific gear are we talking about?

Well I have Test e, and Tren e in plastic vials. After doing some research some people say that it might be because of issues with customs, and some plastic is chem resistant... **** man I hope I didn't get trash

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

Well I have Test e, and Tren e in plastic vials. After doing some research some people say that it might be because of issues with customs, and some plastic is chem resistant... **** man I hope I didn't get trash

Also many dudes I know go to the same supplier and never had any issues.

 

[mike33511]

The only plastic vial I've ever seen had bac water in it. In my experience, if a lab cares about putting out high quality gear, then their vials will be high quality, as well. The labels will be nice, the stoppers will work well, and the vials most certainly won't be made of plastic.

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

lets just say personal experience even with test e which was made with very low solvent content. I'm telling you 100% that any solvent content is gonna interact with the plastic and that is not good at all. What specific gear are we talking about?

The only plastic vial I've ever seen had bac water in it. In my experience, if a lab cares about putting out high quality gear, then their vials will be high quality, as well. The labels will be nice, the stoppers will work well, and the vials most certainly won't be made of plastic.

 

[rascal14]

Does he do refunds? Lol

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

Does he do refunds? Lol

lol I'll ask

 

[rascal14]

lol I'll ask

I can’t comment on whether it’s actually a bad thing or not, I’ve never seen it though which is a little sketchy to me.
yates84 is smart though so I would listen to him myself.

 

[yates84]

Who makes tren e 100 and test e 200 anyway? That's price gouging right off gate. Tren e needs at least 20% solvent so hope they have some new age space type plastic or it's just a plastic wrapper on a glass vial.

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

Who makes tren e 100 and test e 200 anyway? That's price gouging right off gate. Tren e needs at least 20% solvent so hope they have some new age space type plastic or it's just a plastic wrapper on a glass vial.

Even if it's polypropylene plastic?

 

[rascal14]

Who makes tren e 100 and test e 200 anyway? That's price gouging right off gate. Tren e needs at least 20% solvent so hope they have some new age space type plastic or it's just a plastic wrapper on a glass vial.

I didn’t even notice the Tren dosage until you said that. That’s really weird lol

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

Update: I bought new gear from a better source, who uses glass vials lol.

 

[Nac]

I even use glass syringes.

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

I even use glass syringes.

Is that necessary?

 

[bigdavid]

Is that necessary?

No lol

 

[bigdavid]

Just don’t predose the syringes. Fill and pin at the same time. And don’t reuse obviously for many reasons.

 

[Tomcatlegacy]

Just don’t predose the syringes. Fill and pin at the same time. And don’t reuse obviously for many reasons.

I've ran Tren and Test cyp before like a year and a half ago and got some serious ****ing gainz. Did two back to back cycles, and loved it. Never even knew that preloading needles was a thing

 

[bigdavid]

I've ran Tren and Test cyp before like a year and a half ago and got some serious ****ing gainz. Did two back to back cycles, and loved it. Never even knew that preloading needles was a thing

Well I preload hcg doses and then freeze them because they are stable frozen and I just pull them out as needed. But I personally don’t know anyone who does it with oils either but have read the occasional case online. I guess if you had glass syringes that wouldn’t be an issue but the plastic degrades and then you have byproducts in the oil so no good.

 

[Nac]

Wonder what material pharma is using for their preloaded test autoinjectors

 

[Juicedeez utz]

Wonder what material pharma is using for their preloaded test autoinjectors

ECTFE?

 

[bigdavid]

Likely proprietary and a part of the technology patent whatever it is

 

[Smont]

Looks like oil... can you cite something to back that it will "**** me up" I just spent a good chunk of change on this gear.

Oil will leach toxins out of plastic. Not just gear, any cooking oil will do this too. I say don't use it

 

[Smont]

Wonder what material pharma is using for their preloaded test autoinjectors

That's a good point, if they can do that then I'm sure the same material can store gear in vials.

 

[TestiCult]

Just thought I'd add my exp (sry this is my first post, but felt it was relevent to the thread topic) Recently got some Masteron from this brand. Vials say "Nalgene" and was able to research. They are supposedly PETG and good to hold oleates and BB/BA. Crimp job sucks. Tasted it several times and cant feel any tangy-ness on the tip of the tongue (kinda sketchy). Shot 3cc's with no PIP (which I like PIP... tells me my juice is legit). Wondering if anyone else has used this cheap brand and got results. I kinda stocked up on their Mast lol.

 

[TestiCult]

 

[supaslowdx]

Not familiar with what solvents are used in gear but I do work in the plastics industry and id be scared to inject any solvent that can interact with PETG lol.

Only things I know of that are used to bond PETG are MEK (methyl-ethyl ketone), tetrahydrofuran, methylene chloride, cyclohexanone, and ethyl acetate. None of which I would be interested in injecting myself with lol...

Nonetheless, glass is the standard for storing these chemicals for a reason.

 

[TestiCult]

Dang... I even transfered the contents of all petg vials to one sterile 50ml glass vial. Do you think its a waste at this point? I wonder why a UG outfit would go through so much trouble, only to botch everything with plastic containers...

 

[Tsimo562]

Bros! I got the same stuff! I got pip from the sust! Test c a little but i def got pip from the sust and clen shakes. Im using the adex from stack pharma and it seems legit so far. If any of yall used the adex let me know how it worked for yall

 

[BarryScott]

Assuming those are genuine Nalgene containers, they're probably more expensive than glass, weirdly. So it's not a cost cutting measure.

 

[Tsimo562]

yea if its legit nalgene it should be more. I used this same lab and it worked for me

 

[Brain5ick]

Bros! I got the same stuff! I got pip from the sust! Test c a little but i def got pip from the sust and clen shakes. Im using the adex from stack pharma and it seems legit so far. If any of yall used the adex let me know how it worked for yall

Why tf would you get clen shakes from sust?

 

[Tsimo562]

Pip from the sust and shakes from the clen. Clear enough?

 

[Brain5ick]

Pip from the sust and shakes from the clen. Clear enough?

Ohhhh the way you worded it made it sound like you got pip AND shakes from the sust. My bad.

 

[Tsimo562]

No prob bro, i type without proof reading haha