Steroids make you tired?

[Miame]

My boyfriend is on Eq, testosterone, anavar (on and off) and arimidex. He's doing them all at once. He can be moody anyway (he's a Scorpio lol) and he has been out of work for a few months and just started working again (and isn't used to this sleep schedule) .... but the last week or two he is extremely irritable (every single thing I do and say is annoying to him), he's been quiet... he's waking up at 4 am to work at 5 but goes to sleep at 9 or 10 (11 at the latest one night) and then only works three hours jn the am... he says he's so tired... and that's why he's being a little sassier than usual and grumpy... he says that he is absolutely beat... he doesn't even feel like working out but he gets it done. The thing is... he used to only take Anavar and he used to work at the gym from 5-12 four days a week and he used to work at a bar from 5 pm to 4am three nights a week. So I think he has a good work ethic and is a hustler... I just don't understand what's going on? He missed a job function this am that he was "strongly advised to attend". I feel like all the stuff he is on is making him out of the ordinary tired... HES ONLY 25!!!! Now is the years you shouldn't be tired! He has a great diet and drinks 1-2 gal of water a day.

 

[hambone2493]

When was the last time he had labs? We can speculate on here, but you guys should probably go see exactly what's going on hormonally.

 

[Miame]

He hasn't. I suggested it and he said it was a stupid idea bc obvi things are going to be weird since he's on stuff �� I'm not an idiot lol but I told him to go check it out bc it's possible things are really wrong. I'm glad you agree with me! How long do you think those things should be run for? On avg? I know the eq is a 16 week thing...

 

[BlockBuilder]

Welcome to the world of bodybuilding. I live in south Florida and have talked to quite a few women who tried to date bodybuilders and they won't ever do it again. Lots of women simply can't handle it. It also sounds like work and weight lifting is more important to him than you are at the moment.

 

[Paulb]

Yeah any smart bodybuilder knows to get lab work done. Tell them not to be a knuckle dragger and get it done it's cheap.
And find a doctor that will work with him even at his young age.

 

[niklasericson]

My boyfriend is on Eq, testosterone, anavar (on and off) and arimidex. He's doing them all at once. He can be moody anyway (he's a Scorpio lol) and he has been out of work for a few months and just started working again (and isn't used to this sleep schedule) .... but the last week or two he is extremely irritable (every single thing I do and say is annoying to him), he's been quiet... he's waking up at 4 am to work at 5 but goes to sleep at 9 or 10 (11 at the latest one night) and then only works three hours jn the am... he says he's so tired... and that's why he's being a little sassier than usual and grumpy... he says that he is absolutely beat... he doesn't even feel like working out but he gets it done. The thing is... he used to only take Anavar and he used to work at the gym from 5-12 four days a week and he used to work at a bar from 5 pm to 4am three nights a week. So I think he has a good work ethic and is a hustler... I just don't understand what's going on? He missed a job function this am that he was "strongly advised to attend". I feel like all the stuff he is on is making him out of the ordinary tired... HES ONLY 25!!!! Now is the years you shouldn't be tired! He has a great diet and drinks 1-2 gal of water a day.

Sounds like a on-cycle-lethargy.
Low estrogen makes you moody, tired and libido problems.
Low Testosterone makes you moody,tired and libido problems.
His hormones is messed up and he has to do a bloodwork, if he doesn't want to see a doc I would advise him to start PCT asap.

 

[Ape McGrapes]

Leave him. I'll take care of you Boo Boo.

 

[justhere4comm]

http://www.privatemdlabs.com <- Link takes you right to the appropriate blood test for him.

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[Miame]

Oh my gosh!!!! Thank you! You're the best! He's stubborn like a bull so let's see if he'll listen to me!!! Holy mackerel that's so reasonably priced too!

 

[bigdavid]

Just FYI i get horrible lethargy with prolonged cycles and my labs have always come back perfect. It can be a side effect even with everything else seeming fine. Unfortunately the only way I have found to overcome the lethargy is with stimulants.

 

[justhere4comm]

Oh my gosh!!!! Thank you! You're the best! He's stubborn like a bull so let's see if he'll listen to me!!! Holy mackerel that's so reasonably priced too!

It's really easy.
Go online to the link, pay, they email you the paperwork, then make an appointment at Labcorp nearest to you.
He could have his results within 2 days of the blood work online to download.

It's cheaper for me to do this than go through my doctor and insurance, and it's private.

 

[Nac]

Aside from the obvious potential estrogen/e2 issues, being on EQ tell him NOT to skimp on the cbc test. Look for any high measure with rbc or hcrit.

AAS aside, itll only mask lack of sleep for so long. So there could be numerous causes going on here. Plus no mention of how long this cycle has been going on?

 

[fueledpassion]

My boyfriend is on Eq, testosterone, anavar (on and off) and arimidex. He's doing them all at once. He can be moody anyway (he's a Scorpio lol) and he has been out of work for a few months and just started working again (and isn't used to this sleep schedule) .... but the last week or two he is extremely irritable (every single thing I do and say is annoying to him), he's been quiet... he's waking up at 4 am to work at 5 but goes to sleep at 9 or 10 (11 at the latest one night) and then only works three hours jn the am... he says he's so tired... and that's why he's being a little sassier than usual and grumpy... he says that he is absolutely beat... he doesn't even feel like working out but he gets it done. The thing is... he used to only take Anavar and he used to work at the gym from 5-12 four days a week and he used to work at a bar from 5 pm to 4am three nights a week. So I think he has a good work ethic and is a hustler... I just don't understand what's going on? He missed a job function this am that he was "strongly advised to attend". I feel like all the stuff he is on is making him out of the ordinary tired... HES ONLY 25!!!! Now is the years you shouldn't be tired! He has a great diet and drinks 1-2 gal of water a day.

EQ interferes with the GABA receptor and will lead to anxiety in some. My advice is to drop the EQ and Anavar and up the Testosterone. Test rarely causes irritability. In many cases, it improves mood overall.

He should take Theanine & Magnesium during the day and GABA at night and focus on getting proper micronutrients from his diet and supps.

He may just need to drop everything or atleast come down to Test only at a lower dose. For some, the "Test is best" approach is the only option.

 

[AlwaysHungry1]

What if he's really tired with the work and the gym and you are the one who thinks something going on with his hormones ? Is not all periods goods

 

[bigdavid]

What if he's really tired with the work and the gym and you are the one who thinks something going on with his hormones ? Is not all periods goods

Regardless, it is inconsequential. I’ll be the first to admit that this population, myself included, does not have the best insight. If it’s not hormones, ok, if it is hormones, ok, if it’s something else, ok. Obviously he can say “no”. I doubt she is going to point a weapon at the guy... best to be on the cautious side.

 

[grinnell27]

It cam affect people in different ways depending on how his estro is along with other things. Myself personally I've never had any lethargy when using injectables, only orals.

 

[Miame]

Actually he has been getting anxious for weird reasons!

 

[Miame]

I think he's been doing eq for about 3 months now? Test for about 4 or 6? Anavar on and off for 8

 

[Miame]

Regardless, it is inconsequential. I’ll be the first to admit that this population, myself included, does not have the best insight. If it’s not hormones, ok, if it is hormones, ok, if it’s something else, ok. Obviously he can say “no”. I doubt she is going to point a weapon at the guy... best to be on the cautious side.

To be honest we have had our ups and downs but he used to take eq before and he acted the same way. He usually isn't like that. I could be wrong, of course. He could be preoccupied with his new job ... but his irritability and sassiness is through the roof... it isn't normal. The worst part is I don't even mind him doing steroids... I understand what he's trying to achieve and I support him as long as it doesn't impact our relationship or our lives negatively... and the mean grumpy irritated attitude and extreme fatigue is starting to. You guys are all awesome though! I really appreciate the responses and all the help!

 

[kenpoengineer]

As mentioned above, get bloodwork as everything said is just a guess. LabCorp is used and they are everywhere. Easy to do.

 

[fueledpassion]

Actually he has been getting anxious for weird reasons!

This is EQ. Let me find the data that supports my claim and you can show it to him. EQ causes anxiety in many users. He needs to get off it now.

He can drop everything and get on Trestolone (MENT), Masteron & Proviron and he'll be an awesome dude again and wil actually pack on more muscle with that combo than the current one. MENT does an amazing thing for anxiety and mood disorders but the symptoms you soeak of here point to self-induced through the use of EQ. It is also possible that he gets anxious when taking stuff like Anavar, since it is an DHT derivative. Some get crazy anxious on DHT steroids. Plus, DHT tends to increase aggression and snappiness so you have to control it by only taking moderate amounts.

 

[fueledpassion]

First things first though, have him try some GABA at bedtime. Start around 1-1.5 grams after last meal and hit the sack within 30 minutes of that. If it helps, work the dose up to about 3-4 grams each night.

If all that works, order some Phenibut online. This he'll need to take EOD at 1 gram each time he takes it, still taking the GABA at night of course. Don't fiddle with the phenibut. You will need to ration the doses to him so he doesn't get hooked, although personally I've never had a tendency to get hooked on Phenibut.

I'm telling you all of this becuase he isn't likely to stop cycling ~ best we treat the symptoms in light of that.

I remember taking a hormone that suppressed my GABA-ergic system greatly and when I decided to take GABA every night, I experienced the best sleep of my life. It's really, really hard to be depressed and anxious when you get an excellent night of sleep. Almost impossible!

 

[Miame]

First things first though, have him try some GABA at bedtime. Start around 1-1.5 grams after last meal and hit the sack within 30 minutes of that. If it helps, work the dose up to about 3-4 grams each night.

If all that works, order some Phenibut online. This he'll need to take EOD at 1 gram each time he takes it, still taking the GABA at night of course. Don't fiddle with the phenibut. You will need to ration the doses to him so he doesn't get hooked, although personally I've never had a tendency to get hooked on Phenibut.

I'm telling you all of this becuase he isn't likely to stop cycling ~ best we treat the symptoms in light of that.

I remember taking a hormone that suppressed my GABA-ergic system greatly and when I decided to take GABA every night, I experienced the best sleep of my life. It's really, really hard to be depressed and anxious when you get an excellent night of sleep. Almost impossible!

You are so so awesome!!!! Thank you so much for your help!!!! I'm going to try to suggest this but he has a habit of jumping down my throat when I brjnf things up lol

 

[justhere4comm]

You've got some great information to compile and put down on paper for him to digest at his own pace. It's up to him to act on it, and gain more control over reason in lieu of anxiety. I think a good night sleep and with it welcome recuperation would do wonders moving forward.

Good luck to you both!

 

[hamdysayed]

You are so so awesome!!!! Thank you so much for your help!!!! I'm going to try to suggest this but he has a habit of jumping down my throat when I brjnf things up lol

sounds like u need a new bf lol

 

[Ricky10]

It's really easy.
Go online to the link, pay, they email you the paperwork, then make an appointment at Labcorp nearest to you.
He could have his results within 2 days of the blood work online to download.

It's cheaper for me to do this than go through my doctor and insurance, and it's private.

Yeah...this is great. Thanks for sharing! Dealing with PCP etc is a PIA....

 

[Smont]

Sounds like me from time to time, anxiety is part of my problem and sometimes when life isn't going in the direction I want I start getting super lazy and basically do the opposite of what would make things better.

 

[Miame]

Sounds like me from time to time, anxiety is part of my problem and sometimes when life isn't going in the direction I want I start getting super lazy and basically do the opposite of what would make things better.

Actually that's him too! Almost like he shuts down? Why is that? How do you get yourself out of it? Then he gets even more stressed bc he's not being proactive to fix it. Men are so complicated!!!! lol

 

[hamdysayed]

Actually that's him too! Almost like he shuts down? Why is that? How do you get yourself out of it? Then he gets even more stressed bc he's not being proactive to fix it. Men are so complicated!!!! lol

nah just ur bf, sounds like its time for him to get off anabolics.
since it's counter productive at this moment .

 

[Smont]

Actually that's him too! Almost like he shuts down? Why is that? How do you get yourself out of it? Then he gets even more stressed bc he's not being proactive to fix it. Men are so complicated!!!! lol

Sounds like me, and honestly i don't have a real answer, usually I just finally tell myself to snap the fux outta it because the longer I mope around the lazier I get. But I will say that if he can't see what's wrong by himself then anything you try to tell him will probably just piss him off more

 

[hambone2493]

I think most everyone on here has come to the consensus that he needs to begin PCT, and get labs. He'll begin to act more normal and feel better.

 

[hamdysayed]

I think most everyone on here has come to the consensus that he needs to begin PCT, and get labs. He'll begin to act more normal and feel better.

yeah all the other advices with all due respect was excellent but the fact that her bf is not even here to seek help is bad .
unless we are getting trolled

 

[Miame]

I think most everyone on here has come to the consensus that he needs to begin PCT, and get labs. He'll begin to act more normal and feel better.

I'm gonna see if I can't bring it up some way that won't make him defensive. I appreciate it guys!!! No he doesn't see it but he's in it so I can get why he doesn't see himself acting out of the norm... it's just frustrating. And I'm not sure what the other guy means by trolling lol

 

[hamdysayed]

I'm gonna see if I can't bring it up some way that won't make him defensive. I appreciate it guys!!! No he doesn't see it but he's in it so I can get why he doesn't see himself acting out of the norm... it's just frustrating. And I'm not sure what the other guy means by trolling lol

look it up urban dictionary.
good luck if u serious

 

[Miame]

Oh! NOOO! I'm not trolling and there was no discourse! lol everyone was so helpful! Thanks again fellas!

 

[hamdysayed]

Oh! NOOO! I'm not trolling and there was no discourse! lol everyone was so helpful! Thanks again fellas!

good luck, tell him hop off the juice , how's his libido?

 

[Miame]

good luck, tell him hop off the juice , how's his libido?

Actually it used to be better... but not awful? I feel bad saying this... we use to get busy &#55357;&#56883; More before... he says it isn't me... I know he isn't cheating... he likes porn but he's always liked porn and when we do get "busy" it's on point... but he just hasn't been as ... firm &#55357;&#56883; As before

 

[hamdysayed]

Actually it used to be better... but not awful? I feel bad saying this... we use to get busy �� More before... he says it isn't me... I know he isn't cheating... he likes porn but he's always liked porn and when we do get "busy" it's on point... but he just hasn't been as ... firm �� As before

yeah I can bet you anything all his hormones are out of wack !!
tell him get off the juice or you gonna ditch him , sound like low quality of life all around