Proviron (anything similar?)

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Morning all,

I read that proviron tends to work well with other compounds (particularly testosterone) due to its effects on SHBG and estrogen.

I'd guess (maybe incorrectly) that it'd also be useful with aromatising prohormones? But presumably not a good combination with things like epistane, unless you have a particular love of sore joints.

Anyway, was wondering if there are other compounds out there that have similar uses in maximising AAS cycles, but without the anti-E2 aspects. Obviously I'm not thinking of test bases etc. - I know about those.

Currently back "on" (yay) so giving some thought to a cycle for early next year... Which could be an interesting one.
 
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I cant help. But just adding some experience.

I use pharma grade cialis 5mg per day and 25mg clomid twice a week

(all during TRT that i intend to stay for life) of course
 
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Masteron? Not oral though
 

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Hopefully I am right on this if not someone might please correct me:
Winstrol and basically all fat derivates have these Effects on shbg...freing up more test but also estrogens...
 
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I wonder if it's winstrol that I read about as well. There was definitely something other than proviron (and MK667) that seemed handy for stacking, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was.
 

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OTC: Divinil is most effective and actually quite effectively. Testabolan is actually quite potent for this, not comparable.. but pretty damn effective for an otc product to compare somewhat to proviron.
 
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Interesting one - had to google for more info (which is great - learning about stuff is why I asked the question).

Cheers.
Tbol is one of the most well known compounds that binds to shbg which in turn frees up more T. Hope that answers your question and would help you on cycle. Like any other methylated compound it is hepatoxic so run a liver cycle support with it like tudca.
 
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Hope that answers your question and would help you on cycle.
It's a great bit of info for me.

Not sure what I'm going to run next time yet; this thread was to help me get some ideas together.

Not going to be going crazy with a hundred compounds and insane doses - just a couple of things that I can make work in the time frame, aren't "too" risky, and that'll make a difference.
 
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Tbol is one of the most well known compounds that binds to shbg which in turn frees up more T.
Been looking into this a little more, and I quite like what I'm seeing. To cut a long question short, if I wanted to run a short test to assess my tolerance (not for gains), would you happen to know a suitable dosage?

Next cycle would have to be either turinabol on its own, or turin + something else I've never used before. Not happy about running two unknown compounds so, if possible, I'd like to test the water. But I'll only have one chance to do that (scheduling), and that's at the end of my current Havoc cycle (before PCT). So I couldn't push my poor liver too far and run the turin for very long.

If that doesn't sound feasible, I can always rethink.
 
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Been looking into this a little more, and I quite like what I'm seeing. To cut a long question short, if I wanted to run a short test to assess my tolerance (not for gains), would you happen to know a suitable dosage?

Next cycle would have to be either turinabol on its own, or turin + something else I've never used before. Not happy about running two unknown compounds so, if possible, I'd like to test the water. But I'll only have one chance to do that (scheduling), and that's at the end of my current Havoc cycle (before PCT). So I couldn't push my poor liver too far and run the turin for very long.

If that doesn't sound feasible, I can always rethink.
I wouldn't run it after havoc. Wait for your next "blast" cycle. Even if you were assessing for tolerance it wouldn't be a good gauge now that you're already after a hepatoxic compound.
 
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I wouldn't run it after havoc. Wait for your next "blast" cycle. Even if you were assessing for tolerance it wouldn't be a good gauge now that you're already after a hepatoxic compound.
Yeah, you're probably right. Back to the calendar to try and figure this all out. :)

Cheers mate.
 
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But to also answer your question I think I ran mine 40mg/day but it has been awhile back and I'm not 100% sure
 
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