Common sides from current stack

thefrenchmen

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About to get into a OL 1/4/epi stack. Only 4 weeks long. Came with sup3r pct and ar1micare.

Is this stack worth running only 4 weeks?

What are some typical sides from running this stack?
 
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No it's not worth running for only 4 weeks.
Run at least 8 weeks
Common sides are suppressed test

Better get a SERM for your pct. sup3r pct is good for helping with libido but won't do anything to kick start your test after your cycle.
Ar1micare is a good product, but you won't really need it with the andros. But if it makes you comfortable using it then go ahead. It won't hurt.
 
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Thanks for the reply.
What are my options?

Try the stack with an appropriate serm?

Sell it?

Toss it?
If it's not worth running 4 weeks, what's the point?
 
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The point is to run it for 6-8 with SERM afterwards.
 
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I see that. But the stack only has enough capsules to run for 4 weeks.
 
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Sometimes you have to buy more for a proper cycle. Yes, you can run this for 4 weeks, but it's just not enough. I honestly think 6 weeks on andros is a minimum to see solid gains. You could run stronger, methylated compounds for 4-5 weeks and see great gains, but they are definitely not mild. Maybe you could buy more 1-Andro, since your muscle gains will come mainly from it; then start Epiandro and 4-Andro in week 3. Not ideal, but would save you $$. I remember running 1-Andro solo, no base, for 5 weeks before I started feeling lethargic.... but then, everybody is different.
 
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Ok I'll go ahead and get more. As far as a serm goes, nolva or clomid?
I hear the liquid forms are either bunk or under dosed.
 
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Ok I'll go ahead and get more. As far as a serm goes, nolva or clomid?
I hear the liquid forms are either bunk or under dosed.
Let me lay this out for ya maverick, and don't take offense to this,
You're not ready to cycle. I don't know you. Don't know your training experience, don't know your height weight nothing. And frankly I don't care. Judging from your comments you haven't done the necessary research required to cycle anything. Even if it just andros.
I suggest you do a little more studying before you try to jump on any sort of anabolic. Unless it's a natty anabolic like XGels.

Now if you want to use this forum as your source of info that's great. There's a lot of good info here. But I'd suggest digging into it before you go off and cycle something. Unless you really wanna f!ck yourself up.
 

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I was in your shoes OP. Read, read and read some more. You need to do more research before you start a cycle. There's a lot to learn.

No serm no cycle. Get on google and you'll find clomid or nolva.
Nutriverse has deals on their andro bundles. You'll save money that way.
 

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I just did my first cycle of 1/4/epiandro. It doesn't really kick in until week 4 so a 4 week cycle would be a waste. You'll probably feel a little jittery and stomach issues at first if you're not used to this many pills but you get used to it. I didn't have any hair loss, I didn't have any signs of gyno, and my strength gains were awesome.
 

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