On PH now - Want to go to DBOL

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I will be finishing up a PH 4 week cycle. (I know PH are not worth the money....etc.).

I have a friend who got legit DBOL and I wanna jump into it after the PH cycle ends in two weeks. Healthy male, no drinking, healthy liver etc....

Think I can jump stright into it or have to PCT from the PH first? I DO NOT have T, just the DBOL.

Have Eradicate, Nolva and Kingsblood ready for PCT either way.
 
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Wouldn't use dbol by itself. I would use a T base with it. Like 4 andro.
Like dbol weeks 1-4
Andro weeks 1-8 then PCt.
 
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Wouldn't use dbol by itself. I would use a T base with it. Like 1 andro.
Like dbol weeks 1-4
Andro weeks 1-8 then PCt.
1 Andro is not a base, in fact it will do the opposite, 4 andro, epi andro will work as a base. That said if your friend can get dbol he can get test, stop being a puss
 
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Andro the giant is 4. "1st Ingredient: 4-Androsterone". Am I missing something?
 
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I was talking to about what jakz said, you are correct on andro the giant but it's a wet compound and you would be better off with epi andro if you wont pin. Dbol is really wet so u don't wanna make it worse
 
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Just know that dbol is great at the beginning of a long test cycle but a short dbol only cycle is gonna blow you up and within a few weeks after PCT it will disappear. If I were u I would PCT and save the dbol for when your ready to pin. If your dead set then I'd go epiandro 1000mg/dbol 20mg for 6 weeks
 
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1 Andro is not a base, in fact it will do the opposite, 4 andro, epi andro will work as a base. That said if your friend can get dbol he can get test, stop being a puss
listen to Smont. No idea about PH's.
 
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Also I agree with Smont. If he can get Dbol, he can get test! Get some test e and let the games begin.
 
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Will the DBOL take hold right away, or take a week or so? Never done it....virgin here
 

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U can run Dbol as a bridge between cycles really low dose but watch liver support also if you want to cycle Dbol u need test with. It
 
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I know I've spent some money on the PH already, but would it be ok to just make the jump now or try and finish the PH out?
 
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What pH?
 
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You'll lose all your gains if you do a dbol only cycle hahahahaha
 

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This. What compound are you currently running, OP? A lot of people mistakenly refer to some very harsh, methylated oral steroids as "PH's." If this is what you are currently taking, I wouldn't jump into the Dbol cycle right away. It's important to give your liver a break.
 
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This. What compound are you currently running, OP? A lot of people mistakenly refer to some very harsh, methylated oral steroids as "PH's." If this is what you are currently taking, I wouldn't jump into the Dbol cycle right away. It's important to give your liver a break.
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I will be finishing up a PH 4 week cycle. (I know PH are not worth the money....etc.).

I have a friend who got legit DBOL and I wanna jump into it after the PH cycle ends in two weeks. Healthy male, no drinking, healthy liver etc....

Think I can jump stright into it or have to PCT from the PH first? I DO NOT have T, just the DBOL.

Have Eradicate, Nolva and Kingsblood ready for PCT either way.
Bro you won't regret it, however make sure you have all the right things before doing dbol. Dbol is very toxic to the liver so you better have aremidex, and either novladex, or climid. Take the armidex with the dbol at the same time. Good luck
 

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Wouldn't use dbol by itself. I would use a T base with it. Like 4 andro.
Like dbol weeks 1-4
Andro weeks 1-8 then PCt.
Yes also agree you'll deff need a t. Like cyp, eth, or get a good sustanon. And don't exceed 6 weeks on the dbol or over 40mg.
 

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Will the DBOL take hold right away, or take a week or so? Never done it....virgin here
Not true.... dbol work on the spot of you don't feel it right away it's probably bunk ****. Also it has a very short half life in the body. 4 to 6 hours and it's gone. So when you take it let's say 40mg a day break that up in your day.
 
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Not true.... dbol work on the spot of you don't feel it right away it's probably bunk ****. Also it has a very short half life in the body. 4 to 6 hours and it's gone. So when you take it let's say 40mg a day break that up in your day.
Thanks! So I should feel that pump during the first workiut or so...
 
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Half life, 4-6 hours and it's gone.. think about what you just said for a second....
Not true.... dbol work on the spot of you don't feel it right away it's probably bunk ****. Also it has a very short half life in the body. 4 to 6 hours and it's gone. So when you take it let's say 40mg a day break that up in your day.
 
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Half life, 4-6 hours and it's gone.. think about what you just said for a second....
Right. Break it up throughout the day, and the effects are almost instant. What did I miss? If I start on a given day, would I not feel the pump in the first workout say that night?
 
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Even with a Andro 4 test base?
Even with a 4andro base. 1. It takes 4 weeks to kick in 2. If you spent the same amount of money on food as you did 4ad you'd get more gains probably
 
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If I had some Dbol to finish off a dhea cycle I'd do it.
On another note everyone is recommending against it (I'm assuming because they've all ran dbol only cycles and know personally) but op waited till he got one answer from a new member then ran with it.
So, sounds like he had his mind made up and was just looking for anyone to agree with it.
 
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I'm getting mixed answers....would the DBOL take 4 weeks or the Andro?
 
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Right. Break it up throughout the day, and the effects are almost instant. What did I miss? If I start on a given day, would I not feel the pump in the first workout say that night?
Your username is crashe, not amj8858 bro.
Unless their both you?
 
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All active steroids begin working immediately.
The "kick in" is when most notice effects.

Building muscle takes time.

This thread is annoying me. I'm out.
 
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This is just bad judgment and planning. Like dude said, spend the money on real food and I guarantee you'll make solid, keepable gains. Just food for thought...no pun intended
 
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If I had some Dbol to finish off a dhea cycle I'd do it.
On another note everyone is recommending against it (I'm assuming because they've all ran dbol only cycles and know personally) but op waited till he got one answer from a new member then ran with it.
So, sounds like he had his mind made up and was just looking for anyone to agree with it.
Yes. Ran a few Dbol only cycles, not for mass, but for strength. I still ate big and kept minimal, not worth it, but as a kicker, YES!
 
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Bro you won't regret it, however make sure you have all the right things before doing dbol. Dbol is very toxic to the liver so you better have aremidex, and either novladex, or climid. Take the armidex with the dbol at the same time. Good luck
Yeah you want "aremidex", nolva or "climid" because it's liver toxic broooooooooo, they will sort you liver outtttt!!!
 

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Right. Break it up throughout the day, and the effects are almost instant. What did I miss? If I start on a given day, would I not feel the pump in the first workout say that night?
Okay take 20mg when you wake up... you will feel it in about an hour. Take the other 20 before you go to the gym. Tell you what look up dbol on line I'm sure they can tell you what I have already
 

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I'm getting mixed answers....would the DBOL take 4 weeks or the Andro?
Bro plan and simple dbol works fast in your system and leaves your system just as fast. It's a kick starter and you don't use it alone. Use a Test e or test c or sustanon with it and never use it longer than six weeks over 40mg if you want a liver. Also take milk thistle with it and amimidex okay.
 

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All active steroids begin working immediately.
The "kick in" is when most notice effects.

Building muscle takes time.

This thread is annoying me. I'm out.
I don't understand what you mean "all active". Not all steroids work right away. Cyp, eth, deca, and many more take up to three weeks to work at full potential. Dbol work right away and will kick your ass if your not careful. It's the most powerful anabolic steroid in the world. It's no joke and if you don't know what to take with it or how to use it just stay away from it.
 
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I don't understand what you mean "all active". Not all steroids work right away. Cyp, eth, deca, and many more take up to three weeks to work at full potential. Dbol work right away and will kick your ass if your not careful. It's the most powerful anabolic steroid in the world. It's no joke and if you don't know what to take with it or how to use it just stay away from it.
1. Cyp, eth, deca all work straight away but have a long ester attached so it builds up in your system to feel it, like he said the "kick in" part.... hence it still has effect up to 3 weeks after last pin.
2. Dbol is not the most powerful anabolic in the world or the most harsh.
3. LOL at milk thistle
4. Don't listen to this guy
 
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So because dbol is toxic he better make sure he has a ai and serm. Please stop giving terrible advice
 
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Pretty sure taking dbol, for the first day and then being a beast is called "the placebo effect", Deca kicking in at week 3? Nope.
 
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Studies also show, that while low, nolva is liver toxic.
 
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Can we not have one damn anabolic thread where a dude is a moron and another dude is just as much a moron but is the bad ass board guru...
 
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Bro you won't regret it, however make sure you have all the right things before doing dbol. Dbol is very toxic to the liver so you better have aremidex, and either novladex, or climid. Take the armidex with the dbol at the same time. Good luck
I dont understand your logic.
You mentioned that Dbol is very toxic to the liver.
Then you said he needs "aremidex, novladex,climid".
I assume that you were trying to say that arimidex/nolvadex and clomid all functioning as liver protection and /or liver detox?
 
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Can we not have one damn anabolic thread where a dude is a moron and another dude is just as much a moron but is the bad ass boats guru...
Reference to me?
 

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So because dbol is toxic he better make sure he has a ai and serm. Please stop giving terrible advice
Hahahah okay then give him yours see where that gets him. I would advise a PCT at the end of cycle. Nolvidex or climid.. but while on it I would also take an ai. Dbol is powerful and can cause tits while using. And also a liver cleanser something like milk thistle. And take that at the same time as dbol. Just my thoughts guys.
 
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