Superdrol into LGD or vice-versa?

[HBull]

Hey there, how's it going...

I've been researching a ton for my next cycle ideas. I came across a thread on the forum where someone stacked LGD with M-sten for the first 4 weeks of their run and continued the LGD solo for another 6 weeks or so. Then he PCTed after those 6 weeks.

My question is this: instead of the M-Sten for 4 weeks, can I run Superdrol for 3 weeks? If so, should I run it in the beginning or the end? I know I can run it in the end at worst, but I would prefer to run it first as to use LGD to solidify the gains. Also, LGD takes a few weeks to kick in fully, at least in my experience of running it solo in the past.

The problem I think could come with starting with Superdrol as the shutdown could be major and the gains might be lost as a result of the LGD not being strong enough to retain the new gains for an additional 5 weeks. In addition, the added shutdown from the LGD could add to the problem after Superdrol by shutting me down further.

I was thinking 8mg LGD and 20 mg SD?

What do y'all think? Any experience with this or similar?

 

[rascal14]

It is clear you don't quite understand how steroids work.

Just run the LGD the full length with the Superdrol the first few weeks.

 

[HBull]

I believe I understand how steroid work. What makes it seem that way? I am always looking to learn.

Do you think the Superdrol will shut me down to a point of making the rest of my LGD cycle miserable? I have read many SD logs and people are lethargic from shutdown it seem. With LGD's shut down (though I didn't notice much in my run) it seems this lethargy would continue because of this? Am I wrong?

 

[HBull]

It is clear you don't quite understand how steroids work.

Just run the LGD the full length with the Superdrol the first few weeks.

Please see above brotha

 

[rascal14]

The problem I think could come with starting with Superdrol as the shutdown could be major and the gains might be lost as a result of the LGD not being strong enough to retain the new gains for an additional 5 weeks. In addition, the added shutdown from the LGD could add to the problem after Superdrol by shutting me down further.

This is what made me say I don't think you quite understand how they work, and I didn't mean that rudely at all. You are already smarter than most of the people coming on here asking questions. It makes much more sense to start with the Superdrol and continue the LGD afterwards to solidify it more. Using Superdrol at the end would be the way you would lose more of the gains, by getting off Superdrol and all the mass you gain from it and immediately going into PCT where your testosterone levels are next to nothing.

LGD may not be as strong as Superdrol, but it is definitely going to be stronger than suppressed testosterone levels in PCT, considering it is a SARM.. if that makes sense.

 

[rascal14]

I know I can run it in the end at worst, but I would prefer to run it first as to use LGD to solidify the gains. Also, LGD takes a few weeks to kick in fully, at least in my experience of running it solo in the past.

I somehow missed this part when I first read this.

 

[HBull]

This is what made me say I don't think you quite understand how they work, and I didn't mean that rudely at all. You are already smarter than most of the people coming on here asking questions. It makes much more sense to start with the Superdrol and continue the LGD afterwards to solidify it more. Using Superdrol at the end would be the way you would lose more of the gains, by getting off Superdrol and all the mass you gain from it and immediately going into PCT where your testosterone levels are next to nothing.

LGD may not be as strong as Superdrol, but it is definitely going to be stronger than suppressed testosterone levels in PCT, considering it is a SARM.. if that makes sense.

Awesome and thanks bro. From what I have gather and your help I am thinking of running the SD 20 mg and LGD at 8 mg for 3 weeks. I will then continue about 5 weeks on just LGD and then do a full PCT... probably nolvadex and maybe clomid?

 

[mike33511]

Run LGD for 8-10 weeks and Superdrol for the first 3-4. Add in 200mg a week of test C or E for the entire duration and you'll really have yourself a cycle.

 

[macedog24]

Run LGD for 8-10 weeks and Superdrol for the first 3-4. Add in 200mg a week of test C or E for the entire duration and you'll really have yourself a cycle.

You better have more than just these compounds if you plan on running any of the above. Also, when have you had bloodwork done. What and when was your last cycle?

 

[vujade]

LGD made me very lethargic about 5 to 6 weeks in. I wouldn't it with out a test base.

 

[mike33511]

You better have more than just these compounds if you plan on running any of the above. Also, when have you had bloodwork done. What and when was your last cycle?

Are you talking to the OP or me? I'm currently on cycle. 500mg test E a week with a Halodrol kickstart and a dienedione finisher.

 

[macedog24]

The op.

 

[macedog24]

Are you talking to the OP or me? I'm currently on cycle. 500mg test E a week with a Halodrol kickstart and a dienedione finisher.

I like the test e w/halo. How many weeks in the front (6)

 

[HBull]

You better have more than just these compounds if you plan on running any of the above. Also, when have you had bloodwork done. What and when was your last cycle?

I had blood work done last week and all seems normal and within my range. My last cycle was dmz/ msten with minimal lethargy.

 

[macedog24]

I had blood work done last week and all seems normal and within my range. My last cycle was dmz/ msten with minimal lethargy.

How long ago?

 

[HBull]

Are you talking to the OP or me? I'm currently on cycle. 500mg test E a week with a Halodrol kickstart and a dienedione finisher.

Would stano work as a test base? Reluctant to use anything with the potential to aromatize because I am extremely vulnerable to gyno as I learned from running 4-Andro last cycle

 

[HBull]

I ended my PCT early January

 

[mike33511]

I like the test e w/halo. How many weeks in the front (6)

Set-up was like this:
1-16 Test E 500mg/wk
1-6 Halodrol 50/50/75/75/100/100
11-16 Dienedione 60/60/90/90/90/90

Currently on day 7 of the dienedione.

 

[HBull]

You better have more than just these compounds if you plan on running any of the above. Also, when have you had bloodwork done. What and when was your last cycle?

Would stano work as a test base? Reluctant to use anything with the potential to aromatize because I am extremely vulnerable to gyno as I learned from running 4-Andro last cycle

 

[mike33511]

Would stano work as a test base? Reluctant to use anything with the potential to aromatize because I am extremely vulnerable to gyno as I learned from running 4-Andro last cycle

The only test bases that I know of are test, prohormones to test, and trest, all of which aromatize.

 

[HBull]

The only test bases that I know of are test, prohormones to test, and trest, all of which aromatize.

So stano can't be used ?

 

[mike33511]

So stano can't be used ?

I just looked into this and stano should work as a base just like epi-andro would.

 

[macedog24]

Ok I understand now.
You've ran only oral cycles.
Make sure you have support supplements to run on cycle. Lethargy doesn't tell you how shut down you are !
You will be shut down hard! Your natural test will be suppressed!
High blood pressure
Liver enzymes will go up.
Cholesterol will be affected the good and the bad.
Kidneys will also take a beating.
You need to make sure your on the proper cycle support during and have a real pct.

 

[macedog24]

Do u have a pct set up and on hand and on cycle support.

 

[macedog24]

You do not need to stack sd.
It is one of the strongest compounds ever created. More isn't always better. Not saying you can't.

 

[HBull]

I just looked into this and stano should work as a base just like epi-andro would.

Would you recommend Epi-Andro or Stano? It seem stano is a bit hard to find as well.

 

[HBull]

Ok I understand now.
You've ran only oral cycles.
Make sure you have support supplements to run on cycle. Lethargy doesn't tell you how shut down you are !
You will be shut down hard! Your natural test will be suppressed!
High blood pressure
Liver enzymes will go up.
Cholesterol will be affected the good and the bad.
Kidneys will also take a beating.
You need to make sure your on the proper cycle support during and have a real pct.

Yessir! I have all my supps. Liver support, blood pressure, TUDCA. I also have clomid and nolva arriving soon! Also have natty test boosters laying around. I will probably only use support supps for the first 4 weeks.

 

[mike33511]

Would you recommend Epi-Andro or Stano? It seem stano is a bit hard to find as well.

I don't know much about stano. Epi-andro is easy to find and will work fine.

 

[HBull]

I don't know much about stano. Epi-andro is easy to find and will work fine.

Awesome. Thanks brother. Should a dosage of 300mg work? Or should I go higher? Also, should I run the base throughout the cycle or just during SuperDrol?

 

[vujade]

Would you recommend Epi-Andro or Stano? It seem stano is a bit hard to find as well.

I don't know much about stano. Epi-andro is easy to find and will work fine.

Stano and EpiAndro are essentially the same compound. One is the A Isomer and one is the B Isomer.

Stano has a positive effect on Gaba, and give a almost calm alpha feeling.

EpiAndro stimulates the central nervous system and increases adrenalin.

They are awesome when stacked together...!

Check out MuscleGelz AndroHard (I have no affiliation with it). Its Androsterone (Stano) plus EpiAndro.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/muscle-gelz/291801-musclegelz-discount-code.html

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/muscle-gelz/291691-super-r-andro.htmlCurrently

 

[mike33511]

Awesome. Thanks brother. Should a dosage of 300mg work? Or should I go higher? Also, should I run the base throughout the cycle or just during SuperDrol?

I would go with at least 500mg and run it throughout the cycle.

 

[HBull]

I would go with at least 500mg and run it throughout the cycle.

Awesome, thank you