Using andro or other as a base

[henhen91]

Just wondering if an individual is not willing to pin. Can I use andros like primeval 4 andro or epi andro max as a base?

If I wanted to run say msten at 12-15mg a day or anavar 60mg a day can 400mg or primeval epiandro max or 200mg of the 4andro be enough to combat the lethargy side effects. Leaning towards epiandro max to avoid worrying about estrogen

On cycle I'll use cycle support, Arm1care pro if needed
nolva and ai for pct of course

I'm looking for a lean bulk/cut. Im a small guy 5'4 135lbs train on off for a decade, 27 yrs old.

thanks

 

[DennisTheDane]

Would look to Prednutritions 4-ad its not a DHEA base it converts to Test

 

[Brandinooooo]

Would look to Prednutritions 4-ad its not a DHEA base it converts to Test

This or 4-andro, Epiandro or DHEA. All depends on your goal. Personally, if go with the 4-andro to even out the dryness of the 1andro.

And the 1-andro elite is only a bigger bottle. Same compound.

 

[henhen91]

thanks, not looking to stack 1 andro as i want a base for the dry compounds that cause shutdown, 1 andro from what ive read can cause further lethargy.
So 4 andros such as primeval/andre the giant can work for a base?

 

[DennisTheDane]

This or 4-andro, Epiandro or DHEA. All depends on your goal. Personally, if go with the 4-andro to even out the dryness of the 1andro.

And the 1-andro elite is only a bigger bottle. Same compound.

Why use a DHEA when you get 1 step conversion with 4-ad from Fusion Supplement

 

[Brandinooooo]

Why use a DHEA when you get 1 step conversion with 4-ad from Fusion Supplement

I didn't know 4ad was still available.

 

[dvw]

Do you have to buy 4 ad from England?

 

[medinacirilo]

I'm using DHEA TD along with M-Sten (30mg) and it's working absolutely fine. 4-Andro would be good, too. I've never used Epiandro, but I think it might be too dry. In your original post you said you're looking for a "lean bulk/cut". pick one goal (lean bulk, or cut)and run with it; you'll be much more happy with your results

 

[medinacirilo]

As for the M-Sten:

 

[DennisTheDane]

I didn't know 4ad was still available.

predatornutrition have it

 

[DennisTheDane]

Do you have to buy 4 ad from England?

yup they ship to usa or where ever u are

 

[henhen91]

Prefer to try consistent low dose , as first strong oral and want to keep liver strain minimum. I'm. A small guy so I may react well .

 

[bobi593]

Would look to Prednutritions 4-ad its not a DHEA base it converts to Test

i couldn't find any legit logs for this product have you tried ?

 

[DennisTheDane]

i couldn't find any legit logs for this product have you tried ?

yup and about to do 8 weeks stacked with nano 1t

 

[DennisTheDane]

Prefer to try consistent low dose , as first strong oral and want to keep liver strain minimum. I'm. A small guy so I may react well .

Its nin methylated so no strain on the liver

 

[bobi593]

yup and about to do 8 weeks stacked with nano 1t

can you say shortly about this ph what type of gains did you get strength/mass/high libido /side effects etc. sorry if I hijack your thread henhen91

 

[henhen91]

sall good bobi593. I ment if i run Msten dennisthedane since it is methylated

 

[DennisTheDane]

strength/mass/high libido all good. No sides what so ever