I had a full hormone panel done but Idk what I'm looking at. Is 530.6 for serum test levels considered normal?
Not great for a 24 year old. What time of day was the blood drawn?I had a full hormone panel done but Idk what I'm looking at. Is 530.6 for serum test levels considered normal?
Yep.Total test means nothing with out context (all other numbers). For you it could be absolutely fine, for someone else it could be inadequate.
My total T is never much higher than that and im 100% fine in that regard.
Very good call NAM.Yep.
Some would even say SHBG and free test are more indicative values than TT alone.
As Crisler says, if youre asymptomatic you dont treat. Docs and endos generally dont give a fuk what bros consider optimal for te gainz, for good reason.
9amNot great for a 24 year old. What time of day was the blood drawn?
Lol youre making te gainz and feel fine...would you rather you feel sh1t?Damn this kinda brings me down, even though I don't feel affected by it.
Don't man **** is life. Unless it's making you feel bad then it's normal. Not everyone is perfect in every way. You're making gains and feeling goodDamn this kinda brings me down, even though I don't feel affected by it.
I'll double check and let you know the range, I think it was like 197-900? What does that mean thoughYour test levels are completely fine and normal for your age. Tip- always post the lab ranges as one lab can have 850 as a high and another 1150 and yet another 1320.
Remember that chasing numbers almost always gets people in trouble. Go by how you feel.
Well yours is above median for your rang which is good.I'll double check and let you know the range, I think it was like 197-900? What does that mean though
Well, as mentioned, test levels only part of a big picture if someone is dealing with symptoms. But, as ranges are different depending on what lab company was used, it makes a difference on your results. I don't recall laboratory names, but I believe Lab Corp uses 320-1150, another uses 250 - 850, and another uses 250 - 1320. So if your 530 was used on the 250 - 850 lab, you'd be on high normal side and the others on the lower side. It matters a lot.I'll double check and let you know the range, I think it was like 197-900? What does that mean though
The reference ranges make a difference even if the total test is in the same units across the labs? Is there a dumbed down version of why?Well, as mentioned, test levels only part of a big picture if someone is dealing with symptoms. But, as ranges are different depending on what lab company was used, it makes a difference on your results. I don't recall laboratory names, but I believe Lab Corp uses 320-1150, another uses 250 - 850, and another uses 250 - 1320. So if your 530 was used on the 250 - 850 lab, you'd be on high normal side and the others on the lower side. It matters a lot.
However, you aren't dealing with symptoms and shouldn't be (related to test) as you have very normal levels, so the lab number means very little.
My understanding as well. When I was going between endos in the beginning of my TRT journey, there would be a 200pt difference depending on the lab company used and the reference ranges on their labs.The way I understand it, or make sense of it, is that the test numbers are relative rather than absolute. Possibly due to measuring idiosyncrasies unique to each lab; a guys blood that tests at 900 at one lab could measure differently at others.
At least, that is one reason for much of the skepticism over the unreliability of d3 test numbers (to take an exaggerated example).
The way I understand it, or make sense of it, is that the test numbers are relative rather than absolute. Possibly due to measuring idiosyncrasies unique to each lab; a guys blood that tests at 900 at one lab could measure differently at others.
At least, that is one reason for much of the skepticism over the unreliability of d3 test numbers (to take an exaggerated example).
Interesting. You would think that 1 nanogram per deciliter at one lab would equal 1 nanogram per deciliter at another lab. How could it not? It means 1 billionth of a gram of testosterone per 1 tenth of a liter of blood. How could it mean anything different? Not saying you guys are wrong, but it doesn't make much sense.My understanding as well. When I was going between endos in the beginning of my TRT journey, there would be a 200pt difference depending on the lab company used and the reference ranges on their labs.
I havent delved too much into the specifics but I suspect the margin for error (or difference) may lie in the process of seperation, at least in part.Interesting. You would think that 1 nanogram per deciliter at one lab would equal 1 nanogram per deciliter at another lab. How could it not? It means 1 billionth of a gram of testosterone per 1 tenth of a liter of blood. How could it mean anything different? Not saying you guys are wrong, but it doesn't make much sense.
Some guy across town from you got tested at another facility, had a TT reading of 850. Thats 50% higher than you! Sound good?Thanks for all the input guys this is reassuring
Maybe doing a huge bout of cardio bunny stuff can, fall in T post resistance training is transient.Another factor to consider is that strenuous training can lower test levels for days after a training session. Just because numbers don't read what you might want, as long as it's not impacting your life I wouldn't stress it.
My understanding is that test level rise immediately after training and the increase is what is transient. Either way, lots of things can affect levels and without symptoms there is nothing to worry about imoMaybe doing a huge bout of cardio bunny stuff can, fall in T post resistance training is transient.
Yeah its a bit of a head scratcher. The geek in me is so intrigued now, I want to email a lab technician to get their take on it.Yet another range. What I find odd is that there are so many different ones.
NG/DL doesnt change because the reference numbers change. number of nanograms per deciliter of blood. It is what it is no matter what the range is. The range is a reference only and not relative to this guys 524 ng/dl. He is slightly low for his age but keep in mind 1 test is terrible to go by. Testosterone can drop as much as 30% in a day given the time of day, stress etc..The way I understand it, or make sense of it, is that the test numbers are relative rather than absolute. Possibly due to measuring idiosyncrasies unique to each lab; a guys blood that tests at 900 at one lab could measure differently at others.
At least, that is one reason for much of the skepticism over the unreliability of d3 test numbers (to take an exaggerated example).
Why give the ref range then? I mean, in your scenario, who gives a fuk? What is its relevance? And youre saying, if he sent that very same blood sample to another lab with a different ref range, he'd still get the exact same TT number?NG/DL doesnt change because the reference numbers change. number of nanograms per deciliter of blood. It is what it is no matter what the range is. The range is a reference only and not relative to this guys 524 ng/dl. He is slightly low for his age but keep in mind 1 test is terrible to go by. Testosterone can drop as much as 30% in a day given the time of day, stress etc..
For standard as well as optimal health ranges, and cut-offs, sources of inaccuracy and imprecision include:
Instruments and lab techniques used, or how the measurements are interpreted by observers. These may apply both to the instruments etc. used to establish the reference ranges and the instruments, etc. used to acquire the value for the individual to whom these ranges is applied. To compensate, individual laboratories should have their own lab ranges to account for the instruments used in the laboratory
A reference range is usually defined as the set of values 95 percent of the normal population falls within (that is, 95% prediction interval).[2] It is determined by collecting data from vast numbers of laboratory tests
Those are decent numbers, though about 100pts lower than may be average for your age according to a few studies:I had a full hormone panel done but Idk what I'm looking at. Is 530.6 for serum test levels considered normal?
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