Amazing Clomid results

[muchstronger2]

For all your crackheads out there considering anabolics like I did, I got some news:

I was tested Nov 16 with Total tests levels of 570 ng/dl.

I thought it was pretty low, considered self TRTing, but went for Clomid instead.

I have been taking 12.5mg a week (yes, only 1/4 pill a week) ever since until today.

Tested for total test last week: came back at 1154ng/dl.

That's the only addition I've made since starting clomid.

I'm blown away

 

[bosskardo]

So about 4 months and only once a week.
That would actually equal a slight PCT a little over 2 weeks.
Results seem amazing. Actually shouldn't be that unexpected, there has been discussions that low dose for longer (thou you to it to extreme) raises test levels more. I believe PCT dose/length that is used is to get to normal fast not get test real high.
Overall, if the objective is just to raise test then I believe your method is pretty smart.

 

[paul56778]

For all your crackheads out there considering anabolics like I did, I got some news:

I was tested Nov 16 with Total tests levels of 570 ng/dl.

I thought it was pretty low, considered self TRTing, but went for Clomid instead.

I have been taking 12.5mg a week (yes, only 1/4 pill a week) ever since until today.

Tested for total test last week: came back at 1154ng/dl.

That's the only addition I've made since starting clomid.

I'm blown away

Do you just dose once on a monday e.g. every week.

 

[muchstronger2]

Do you just dose once on a monday e.g. every week.

Yep. Never more

 

[justhere4comm]

How old are you?
This is certainly interesting, and especially intriguing for those younger and wish to remain fertile at least.

I am following this thread
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/290495-clomid-trt-5-a.html

Outcomes of clomiphene citrate treatment in young hypogonadal men.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044663

 

[user567]

Wow! But i would get a couple more bloods to confirm its staying there. I had a random Testosterone test come back at 1200. The next month it was down to 750 and was taking nothing.

 

[enhanced]

Very interesting indeed!

 

[muchstronger2]

How old are you?
This is certainly interesting, and especially intriguing for those younger and wish to remain fertile at least.

I am following this thread
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/290495-clomid-trt-5-a.html

Outcomes of clomiphene citrate treatment in young hypogonadal men.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044663

28 year old

 

[muchstronger2]

Wow! But i would get a couple more bloods to confirm its staying there. I had a random Testosterone test come back at 1200. The next month it was down to 750 and was taking nothing.

It was 10 days since last clomid dose, LH is at 3.9 and FSH 3.1, so definitely maintaining stable T levels although the engine is not running high so to speak

 

[mcc23]

How did you feel on it?

 

[Disco41]

I've been taking .25 EOD for about a month now, with my TRT 200mg/wk and I feel LIKE A ROCKSTAR!!!!!!! MY TRT got me about 70% of what I hoped. I ordered some clomid randomly and said **** it, let's see what happens. Everything is better, from my workouts to my relationships and my fiance.

 

[bruno.camilo]

Sorry i didnt understand what u've written op.

Are u on TRT and using 12.5mg clomid once per week? Is that it?

Or did u stop the TRT?

I am on PCT right now taking clomid (half-cap) 25mg ed. and 0.5mg Anastrozol every monday

 

[LMuscle]

I've been taking .25 EOD for about a month now, with my TRT 200mg/wk and I feel LIKE A ROCKSTAR!!!!!!! MY TRT got me about 70% of what I hoped. I ordered some clomid randomly and said **** it, let's see what happens. Everything is better, from my workouts to my relationships and my fiance.

I thought clomid doesn't work unless you're off trt/cycle? Everyone I've talked to has said clomid makes them feel like garbage, a few to the point of being suicidal.

 

[mcc23]

I thought clomid doesn't work unless you're off trt/cycle? Everyone I've talked to has said clomid makes them feel like garbage, a few to the point of being suicidal.

I think that when you find the proper dose FOR YOU, those unfortunate sides are minimized. One mans proper dose could mean severe crying spells for the next.

 

[mcc23]

I thought clomid doesn't work unless you're off trt/cycle? Everyone I've talked to has said clomid makes them feel like garbage, a few to the point of being suicidal.

And yes you are correct, Clomid will not stimulate LH production until T levels have returned to normal. As long as there's exogenous T in the body, you're effectively wasting money by taking Clomid

 

[Disco41]

That is what they say. I've argued quite a bit but there are lots of others who share my same story. HPTA is suppressed, not dead. Will recheck but think I saw research where clomid raised LH and FSH in castrated males which resulted in testosterone for them. Have to look though, it's been a long time.

 

[LMuscle]

That is what they say. I've argued quite a bit but there are lots of others who share my same story. HPTA is suppressed, not dead. Will recheck but think I saw research where clomid raised LH and FSH in castrated males which resulted in testosterone for them. Have to look though, it's been a long time.

So would clomid make your balls drop like hcg while on exogenous testosterone?

 

[Zariph]

When during the day did you dose the clomid? With or without food? also when did you start to feel the clomid effects and or side effects

 

[GreekTheBrick]

For all your crackheads out there considering anabolics like I did, I got some news:

I was tested Nov 16 with Total tests levels of 570 ng/dl.

I thought it was pretty low, considered self TRTing, but went for Clomid instead.

I have been taking 12.5mg a week (yes, only 1/4 pill a week) ever since until today.

Tested for total test last week: came back at 1154ng/dl.

That's the only addition I've made since starting clomid.

I'm blown away

Hey man, I have a few questions if I may. Had you tested your test levels before shelf TRT and if so what was the reading? Is your test pharma or UG? For how long were you on test and how much were you taking until you get your bloods?

 

[Disco41]

Got my balls back!!!!!!!!! Take the .25 eod before lunch. I started to see results within a week I wld say. I know it does not fit all the broscience, nor the mainstream HCG rx's. All I am saying is what it did for me. I could write it all off as placebo, except the getting my balls back.

 

[The Express 42]

I want to believe this but I don't know something's fishy here

 

[muchstronger2]

I want to believe this but I don't know something's fishy here

Yes I'm probably working for Sanofi and randomly advertising Clomid on here

 

[LMuscle]

Yes I'm probably working for Sanofi and randomly advertising Clomid on here

I think he's talking about disco41

 

[Bunshichi]

And yes you are correct, Clomid will not stimulate LH production until T levels have returned to normal. As long as there's exogenous T in the body, you're effectively wasting money by taking Clomid

Well thats not completely true. A SERM will work till there is a certain amout exogenous Androgens. Thats because the androgen feedback-loop is much weaker than the estrogen feedback-loop.
A SERM like Chlomid disables the latter making some previous limitations unexistent.
So until the dose of test gets too high, chlomid works to a degree.

To the feelgood-effects I however would suspect its more about Estrogen receptors beeing blocked, that has its own effects on the mood etc.

 

[LMuscle]

Well thats not completely true. A SERM will work till there is a certain amout exogenous Androgens. Thats because the androgen feedback-loop is much weaker than the estrogen feedback-loop.
A SERM like Chlomid disables the latter making some previous limitations unexistent.
So until the dose of test gets too high, chlomid works to a degree.

To the feelgood-effects I however would suspect its more about Estrogen receptors beeing blocked, that has its own effects on the mood etc.

I would think that would kill libido

 

[Bunshichi]

I would think that would kill libido

If Chlomid would antagonize every estrogenreceptor that would certainly be true. However the reason its called a SERM is its selective nature. It activates estrogenreceptors in different tissues to a different degree.

And then there also is the point of the low dose. Lowering estrogen too much would kill libido. But low dose AIs in different situations also result in higher libido and wellbeing.

 

[LMuscle]

If Chlomid would antagonize every estrogenreceptor that would certainly be true. However the reason its called a SERM is its selective nature. It activates estrogenreceptors in different tissues to a different degree.

And then there also is the point of the low dose. Lowering estrogen too much would kill libido. But low dose AIs in different situations also result in higher libido and wellbeing.

So would clomid prevent gyno in some people?

 

[user567]

So would clomid prevent gyno in some people?

Somewhat. Nolva blocks it better in breast tissue.

 

[Bunshichi]

So would clomid prevent gyno in some people?

It absolutely does. But since Tamox is waaayy stronger in antagonizing the receptors in the breast tissue it is usually the go to SERM for that purpose.

Edit: user567 was faster

 

[The Express 42]

Yes I'm probably working for Sanofi and randomly advertising Clomid on here

Not trying to say that but 12.5mg a week? cmon. If Clomid actually did this and this fast there would be no need for trt and PCT would feel amazing. There was another guy on here that ran Clomid for 25mg ed for a couple months and his test rose like 20 points. If its too good to be true it probably is

 

[bruno.camilo]

Bro, this topic is completely horse****,

12.5mg CC per week is almost, if not useless.

 

[mcc23]

Bro, this topic is completely horse****,

12.5mg CC per week is almost, if not useless.

I'm inclined to agree.

 

[The Express 42]

Bro, this topic is completely horse****,

12.5mg CC per week is almost, if not useless.

Finally someone thinking logically lol there is more to this that we don't know.

 

[muchstronger2]

Finally someone thinking logically lol there is more to this that we don't know.

As said previously that's the only thing I've added to my regimen apart from 3 cloves of garlic per day.

I had read a topic before starting on here where a 47 guy ran 12.5mg E5D and went from 400 to 750 ng/dl.
That's what had motivated me to start.

I won't keep debating here, this is for the forum's curiosity and interest that I posted my results.
I went from 550 to 1154ng/dl in 5 months just adding Clomid to my regimen.
If you think there's more to it or that it could be just luck, that's fine with me, I want to hear your case

 

[The Express 42]

I am not trying to be a douche, my apologies. I am actually quite happy for you, I just wish my body would respond in similar fashion lol

 

[Nac]

Context may well play a crucial role in terms of results.

Using clomid when all systems are go (hormonally healthy and operational) is obviously a different biological environment than when one has just finished a suppressive cycle.

 

[muchstronger2]

Context may well play a crucial role in terms of results.

Using clomid when all systems are go (hormonally healthy and operational) is obviously a different biological environment than when one has just finished a suppressive cycle.

Indeed.

And I should add, if not made clear before, that I never touched AAS of any sort prior to Clomid or after

 

[benfica88]

Indeed.

And I should add, if not made clear before, that I never touched AAS of any sort prior to Clomid or after

Can you do blood work again a month from now?

 

[Zariph]

As said previously that's the only thing I've added to my regimen apart from 3 cloves of garlic per day.

I had read a topic before starting on here where a 47 guy ran 12.5mg E5D and went from 400 to 750 ng/dl.
That's what had motivated me to start.

I won't keep debating here, this is for the forum's curiosity and interest that I posted my results.
I went from 550 to 1154ng/dl in 5 months just adding Clomid to my regimen.
If you think there's more to it or that it could be just luck, that's fine with me, I want to hear your case

m8 im still interested if you does clomid with food, and did you see any negative effects, and when did you start to feel the clomid

 

[muchstronger2]

m8 im still interested if you does clomid with food, and did you see any negative effects, and when did you start to feel the clomid

I couldn't care less when I dose it as it's once a week and it has a very long half life.

Hard to tell when I started feeling this, there was a lot of placebo effect involved

 

[ericos_bob]

Kills my sex drive. Good stuff to take when you need to focus on things other than sex for a while otherwise I'll keep it for PCT. I'd never take it as an alternative to TRT for this reason alone. Lowering IGF1 levels don't help sell it either.

 

[muchstronger2]

Kills my sex drive. Good stuff to take when you need to focus on things other than sex for a while otherwise I'll keep it for PCT. I'd never take it as an alternative to TRT for this reason alone. Lowering IGF1 levels don't help sell it either.

None of that happens at the dosage I mentioned

 

[M.I.D]

I have read many studies saying how low dose for longer helps raise and keep levels higher.... It could be legit, but 12.5mg does seem very low once a week. Maybe 3 times a week

 

[bruno.camilo]

I have read many studies saying how low dose for longer helps raise and keep levels higher.... It could be legit, but 12.5mg does seem very low once a week. Maybe 3 times a week

Well i think E3D or E4D 25mg would do just fine, now, 12.5mg once per week is hard to believe, but whatever

 

[Nac]

Id recommend people spend a week lurking the trt forums where clomid is popularly prescribed. But yeah aintnobodygittimefordat

So Ill note my own observations:

1) patients have their clomid dose personalised and adjusted/titrated according to their individual subjective reports to their treating physician....and according to bloods.

2) there is no cookie cutter "one dose fits all". None. People will metabolize and react to clomid differently. Hence, their dose protocols will differ from one another.

OP has shown whats possible. He hasnt demonstrated whats likely or probable for you and me.

 

[rascal14]

It's not like he has anything to gain by lying about this? He's not pushing a certain Clomid from anywhere, and even if he was 12.5mg a week would cost you nothing, so again, he has nothing to gain.

 

[Spurfy]

For all your crackheads out there considering anabolics like I did, I got some news:

I was tested Nov 16 with Total tests levels of 570 ng/dl.

I thought it was pretty low, considered self TRTing, but went for Clomid instead.

I have been taking 12.5mg a week (yes, only 1/4 pill a week) ever since until today.

Tested for total test last week: came back at 1154ng/dl.

That's the only addition I've made since starting clomid.

I'm blown away

People *WAY* underestimate the power of SERMs. They essentially can take you right to your genetic limit for T, and with basically zero side effects. Anyone who is secondary should be on a SERM. I've completely dropped TRT in favor of toremifene and I've never felt better.

I take 15 mg of toremifene E3D, and maintain a total T between 850-1000, perfect lipids, perfect liver function, big balls, big loads, great libido, and tons of energy.

 

[LMuscle]

People *WAY* underestimate the power of SERMs. They essentially can take you right to your genetic limit for T, and with basically zero side effects. Anyone who is secondary should be on a SERM. I've completely dropped TRT in favor of toremifene and I've never felt better.

I take 15 mg of toremifene E3D, and maintain a total T between 850-1000, perfect lipids, perfect liver function, big balls, big loads, great libido, and tons of energy.

Never heard of tormefeline

 

[Spurfy]

Bro, this topic is completely horse****,

12.5mg CC per week is almost, if not useless.

Where did you get your PhD in pharmacology?

 

[enhanced]

Torem is good stuff!! Makes me drowsy, but the libido part is awesome!!