First time pinning.. again!

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Hey everyone bout to start my "first" pinning cycle. 500mg Test E a week split up between two pins wednesday and sunday. This is technically my second go with injects. Years ago i tried pinning and on my very first pin got an abscess that scared me off for a while (bad gear or not pinning deep enough) Now im finally ready to give it another go!
Stats : 29, five eleven, 205lbs and probably 12-13%bf.
Been lifting since i was a teenager and have done about five serious PH cycles.
Ill be logging this 12 week test cycle so follow along and ask any questions/add advice.
Pinned my first shot today to my quad, went in smooth with a 25g.
Have lots of cycle support as well as proper PCT (nolva/clomid) set up. Will be posting before/during/after pics.

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Woke up this morning with some soreness in my quad(upper outside where i pinned) asuming its just from being a "virgin muscle". Pretty much feels like i had a good leg work out.
Heading to the gym today for my upper body pull day
Deadlifts
Upright rows
Lat pulldowns
Pull up to failure (timed)
Concentration curls
Rear delt flys.

Dont plan on doing much cardio on this cycle just being diligent on my diet (i use keto cycling)
 
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Hey everyone bout to start my "first" pinning cycle. 500mg Test E a week split up between two pins wednesday and sunday. This is technically my second go with injects. Years ago i tried pinning and on my very first pin got an abscess that scared me off for a while (bad gear or not pinning deep enough) Now im finally ready to give it another go!
Stats : 29, five eleven, 205lbs and probably 12-13%bf.
Been lifting since i was a teenager and have done about five serious PH cycles.
Ill be logging this 12 week test cycle so follow along and ask any questions/add advice.
Pinned my first shot today to my quad, went in smooth with a 25g.
Have lots of cycle support as well as proper PCT (nolva/clomid) set up. Will be posting before/during/after pics.

Enjoy!
In on this. Im looking into this for my first pin cycle. Looking forward to see how this treats you. Are you going to leave it at 500mg all 12 weeks or bump up the test later in the run?
 
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In on this. Im looking into this for my first pin cycle. Looking forward to see how this treats you. Are you going to leave it at 500mg all 12 weeks or bump up the test later in the run?
Im gonna keep it at 500 for my first run. This is what most recommend for first test cycle
 
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Subbed. Good luck and welcome to the Dark Side.
 
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Warm up the vial prior to pinning. After you pin, massage the area for at least 30 seconds.
 
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Yep got that down. Hate having virgin muscles lmao
Haha I hear you brother. When I first pinned the virgin muscle I had pip for a day or two. Now that I have pinned the muscles multiple times there is barely any pip whatsoever.
 
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Warm up the vial prior to pinning. After you pin, massage the area for at least 30 seconds.
I would actually wait 5-10 min after if you want to massage it.
 
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I would have to try this. What's the reasoning behind it?
has to do with the surrounding muscle sleeve- pinning will pierce the sleeve like the skin but will be close up, allowing sometime for it to close before rubbing will help to avoid any leaking.
 
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has to do with the surrounding muscle sleeve- pinning will pierce the sleeve like the skin but will be close up, allowing sometime for it to close before rubbing will help to avoid any leaking.
Interesting will give this a try thanks for the tip brotha
 

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Thumbs up on warming the vial, it helps in drawing the liquid n dispensing. Are you using a pin to draw n then putting on a new pin to inject? That helps in pinning the skin n reduces infection. I never pinned in the quad, to scared. Always in the glute. Why inject in your quad, just wondering? Yes on the massage after inject , helps circulate the oily T in your muscle, so it doesn't leak out. Good luck n welcome to the black hole.
 
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Thumbs up on warming the vial, it helps in drawing the liquid n dispensing. Are you using a pin to draw n then putting on a new pin to inject? That helps in pinning the skin n reduces infection. I never pinned in the quad, to scared. Always in the glute. Why inject in your quad, just wondering? Yes on the massage after inject , helps circulate the oily T in your muscle, so it doesn't leak out. Good luck n welcome to the black hole.
Yeah i use a 20g to draw then switch to a 25g to inject. Pinned quad because it looked easy i though glute would be too hard to do myself but lots of people have been telling me to do glute. Is it easy to pin myself there though? Most people say there is practically no PIP in the glute
 
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Yeah i use a 20g to draw then switch to a 25g to inject. Pinned quad because it looked easy i though glute would be too hard to do myself but lots of people have been telling me to do glute. Is it easy to pin myself there though? Most people say there is practically no PIP in the glute
Try the ventro glute...one of my favorite spots and is easier to pin IMHO.
 
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I use the same brother for mt ventro glute. For my calves I use 25 5/8ths.
 
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Update 2
Pinned my second shot yesterday, left glute. Went well today feeling a little sore nothing crazy probably just the virgin muscle reacting to the injection. My 1st pin site quad has fully recovered so thats a positive sign. Workouts still the same right now, hope to start feeling the test kick in at the end of week 2
 
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Looking forward to see more progress brother!
 
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Update 2
Pinned my second shot yesterday, left glute. Went well today feeling a little sore nothing crazy probably just the virgin muscle reacting to the injection. My 1st pin site quad has fully recovered so thats a positive sign. Workouts still the same right now, hope to start feeling the test kick in at the end of week 2
Cant wait to see how this treats you. Im looking to run my first pin cycle of 600mg test c pinned twice a week, front loaded with dbol at 30-40mg for 4 weeks. I cant wait to hammer the first pin. Kill it man and lets see what this can do.
 

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No d-bol ? On T250 with HFC rt now. Miss the deca n dbol with anadrol ��.
 
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Cant wait to see how this treats you. Im looking to run my first pin cycle of 600mg test c pinned twice a week, front loaded with dbol at 30-40mg for 4 weeks. I cant wait to hammer the first pin. Kill it man and lets see what this can do.
this is your first cycle and your front loading? why? usually front loading would be done after several cycles.

also, if you want to front load - again on your first, I wouldn't recommend it, but stick to the test only and you would double your 1st week

1st week would be 1200
2nd and through out you would go to 600

I wouldn't suggest adding d bol on the first cycle man, stick with the test and have a good first run at 5 or 600 per week
 
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this is your first cycle and your front loading? why? usually front loading would be done after several cycles.

also, if you want to front load - again on your first, I wouldn't recommend it, but stick to the test only and you would double your 1st week

1st week would be 1200
2nd and through out you would go to 600

I wouldn't suggest adding d bol on the first cycle man, stick with the test and have a good first run at 5 or 600 per week
I know that test doesnt kick in till around the 6th week being a long ester. Whats wrong with front loading with dbol the first 4 weeks to get a jump start on the cycle? Whats the benefit of front loading the test at 1200mg the first week?
 
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I know that test doesnt kick in till around the 6th week being a long ester. Whats wrong with front loading with dbol the first 4 weeks to get a jump start on the cycle? Whats the benefit of front loading the test at 1200mg the first week?
on a first cycle I wouldn't front load, I would down the road, but not my first

not my writing-

"The total looks like this:
The first 8 days your body will metabolize 250mg
The second 8 days your body will metabolize half of the remaining 250 (125) and half of the 500 (250) administered on day 9 for a total of 375.
The third 8 days your body will metabolize 250, 125, and 62.5 for a total of 437.5. This is one reason it takes a couple of weeks to start noticing the effects of this drug.
To keep figuring out the bioavailability just keep reducing your smallest number by half and adding it to the total as described earlier.

Here is a chart demonstrating the bioavailability and how long it takes to even reach that 500mg per 8 day mark. For this demonstration we will use 8 days for 1 wk.
Wk 1 – 250mg
Wk 2 – 375mg
Wk 3 – 437.5mg
Wk 4 – 469.2mg
Wk 5 – 485mg
Wk 6 – 492.9mg
Wk 7 – 496.8mg
Wk 8 – 498.7mg
And so on….

So what does all this mean? Well for one it brings up a very important issue of frontloading. To frontload, you simply double your weekly dose just for that first week. It would look like this:
Wk 1 – 1000mg Cyp
Wk 2 – 500mg Cyp
Wk 3 – 500mg Cyp
And continue on at the normal 500mg/wk

The way this works is simple, during week 1 your body will metabolize 500mg of the first dose leaving you with 500 remaining. The second week your body will metabolize 250mg from the first dose and also 250 from the second dose for a total of 500. Now do you see how beneficial frontloading really is? You will stay constant at 500mg/wk throughout your cycle instead of tapering up by not frontloading.
 
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Thanks for explaining it, it makes perfect sense to me. So front loading the test can actually get you up to 500mg a week metabolizing quicker. I totally understand that.

Would you just run prop if you wanted a faster acting anabolic instead of test. I thought running dbol for 4 weeks while the test c was working its magic, I would see some major benefit. By the time I dropped the dbol, test would be kicking in and by week 5 should be on full force. I understand why most just run test as a first cycle to see how there body handles just test alone. I do understand the risk of stacking multiple steroids on your first run as you have no baseline for any you have not ran solo. I was just trying to take advantage of the slower acting test and gain some benefit while waiting on the full effect of the test.
 

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Can you use insulin pins/needles for Sub-Q Testosterone Cypionate injections?
 
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Thanks for explaining it, it makes perfect sense to me. So front loading the test can actually get you up to 500mg a week metabolizing quicker. I totally understand that.

Would you just run prop if you wanted a faster acting anabolic instead of test. I thought running dbol for 4 weeks while the test c was working its magic, I would see some major benefit. By the time I dropped the dbol, test would be kicking in and by week 5 should be on full force. I understand why most just run test as a first cycle to see how there body handles just test alone. I do understand the risk of stacking multiple steroids on your first run as you have no baseline for any you have not ran solo. I was just trying to take advantage of the slower acting test and gain some benefit while waiting on the full effect of the test.
glad that helped and I understand where you were going with this. on paper, things look great but its how your body is going to react.

yes the prop will be a faster pathway, but getting the fastest way in, isn't always the best action. with t/c or t/e this gives you a chance to really start preparing yourself for longer sets, reps and wgt. by the 3rd week you will start noticing the results. your rest time will be reduced, fatigue isn't an issue and youll be pushing yourself harder.

just trying to do to do it all within the first week- getting your diet tuned in, your gym time adjusted etc is a challenge on its own. once sh1t starts to snowball, you know what happens.

if you can, imo bro do the t/e or t/c alone keep good notes on everything. youll be better off on your next one.
 
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Im not even trying to go SUB-q for my first cycle. Using 1.5 and plunging nice and deep IM. Update on my second pin, glute less sore than yesterday think i found my sweetspot! Dont feel any different yet but its only been 6 days
 

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Because my Endo is reducing my TRT TestoGel dosage, AGAIN, from 50 down to 20. Which I personally think isn't even worth rubbing on considering how I can't even feel anything from the 50. So I'm going to administer my own TRT in the form of 2x75mg sub-q test C per week.
 

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