Blood pressure while on cycle

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Hi AM,

Sorry if I'm duplicating another thread but I wanted to start a discussion about blood pressure while on steroids.

I'm currently at the start of week 3 of my 12 week test e (500mg/week) cycle and I've been checking my blood pressure every couple of days.

My pre cycle BP, and the first two weeks was steady: mid 130's over mid/low 60's - no real cause for concern there..

The last two days it has jumped up a bit, yesterday I had 140/80 and today was 145/81

However today was about two hours after taking pre workout so I'm wondering if that could be pumping BP up a bit, but still there are a few things I'm interested in seeing what people think:

1) How high is too high?
2) When do people usually check BP? ie. probably not after preworkout, what about before/after eating etc?
3) For anyone on cycle getting higher BP, what do you do to try and lower it?
4) I'm on an AI .25mg Adex EOD, perhaps increasing this to ED might help?

Don't really think I should go running to the doc, but I will be monitoring it closely, and if the SYS stays well into the 140's I'll have to consider ending my cycle..

Cheers ??
 
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I think it depends of the person but i've heard anything over 140/90 is condsidered high or not in the normal ranges. Are you taking any bp support products during cycle? Also, it's a good idea to not run a stim pre during cycle. I typically will run a stim free product during cycle.
 
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Big mistake taking it after you took your pre workout, even hours later. I would take your bp a little after you wake up in the morning or sometime later in the day when you havent been moving around much (or taken a pre workout)
 
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Taking it after the use of stimulants is going to give you a higher reading than if you had taken it upon waking or in the evening. Of course you want to be aware of your BP/HR during exercise just like you want to monitor levels when not under stress. The use of something like hawthorne berry can help here, i always advise using something like CEL Cycle Assist which is a great overall health product while on cycle.
 

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I always get bad BP sides on cycle. A combination of Cialis and an ACE inhibitor keeps them at bay.
 
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140+ is hypertension 120-130 is normal and 130-140 is prehypertension. Caffeine will raise BP aswell
 

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Mine stays higher on cycle too..
The highest I've read is 150/70
But I feel fine
In the mornings it has been 135/70.. or even 140/70..
Just keep an eye on it.. I drink coffee by the gallon also
 
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Thanks for the feedback guys!

It was actually the first time I'd had pwo since 2 weeks prior to starting to cycle, I'll probably steer clear of it for the rest of the cycle anyway. I've also cut back to one, sometimes 0, coffees per day.
Will take my BP tomorrow morning and see what is says..
I'm taking just fish oil and a garlic extract (kyolic) which is apparently good in assisting a healthy BP.
Maybe worth getting some Hawthorne berry too, and I'll look into Cialis, don't know much about it but it is a prescription?
 

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sorry no disrespect for ppl recommending taking cialis etc u shouldn't resort to that unless u tried everything else .
but how's ur diet? sh!tty diet will make bp bad and why the hell u r not running cycle support?
anyways upping my potassium and magnesium and 2 grams of hawthorn berry got my bp I'm check and I'm prone to high bp.
 
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sorry no disrespect for ppl recommending taking cialis etc u shouldn't resort to that unless u tried everything else .
but how's ur diet? sh!tty diet will make bp bad and why the hell u r not running cycle support?
anyways upping my potassium and magnesium and 2 grams of hawthorn berry got my bp I'm check and I'm prone to high bp.
Thanks for the info. Not running a cycle support as I think I cover most of whats in them within my support supps: kyolic, fish oil, vit d, milk thistle, multi?

Do you up your potassium through a supp? Or through food source?

My diet is good, but I will be making a bigger effort now to cut down on stuff that's high in sodium.
 

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Thanks for the info. Not running a cycle support as I think I cover most of whats in them within my support supps: kyolic, fish oil, vit d, milk thistle, multi?

Do you up your potassium through a supp? Or through food source?

My diet is good, but I will be making a bigger effort now to cut down on stuff that's high in sodium.
salt is the main thing u heed to watch. and u need to get a comprehensive all in one on cycle support , I'm using kings guard by ol right now
I'm upping pot/mag through supps.
cell cycle assist is a decent option or ol arm1care pro, I don't think ur support is sufficient for any cycle unless u running epiandro or super mild compounds.
u need heart support cholesterol etc
 
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salt is the main thing u heed to watch. and u need to get a comprehensive all in one on cycle support , I'm using kings guard by ol right now
I'm upping pot/mag through supps.
cell cycle assist is a decent option or ol arm1care pro, I don't think ur support is sufficient for any cycle unless u running epiandro or super mild compounds.
u need heart support cholesterol etc
Alright I will look into adding in a cycle support, they aren't as readily available in Aus which is why I try to get what I need from individual supps.

Cheers!
 

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Alright I will look into adding in a cycle support, they aren't as readily available in Aus which is why I try to get what I need from individual supps.

Cheers!
ahhhh ok didn't know that, good luck dude
 
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Apple cider vinegar 2 tablespoons daily helped me. Hawthorn berry does wonders but needs to be started pre cycle. Once bp is already elevated adding hawthorn can make it spike.
 
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Apple cider vinegar 2 tablespoons daily helped me. Hawthorn berry does wonders but needs to be started pre cycle. Once bp is already elevated adding hawthorn can make it spike.
Interesting point, thanks!

Now that you mention it I have heard good things about apple cider vinegar, something to consider for sure!
 

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Interesting point, thanks!

Now that you mention it I have heard good things about apple cider vinegar, something to consider for sure!
Just taste gross.. . I tried it on my cycle
 
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Apple cider vinegar 2 tablespoons daily helped me. Hawthorn berry does wonders but needs to be started pre cycle. Once bp is already elevated adding hawthorn can make it spike.
Interesting about the hawthorn making it spike.. Would it eventually bring it back down?

I'm on my 3rd week of my cycle and my bp has gone up quite a bit..

Basically, I've only been taking agmatine to help my bp.. I have some research cialis that I've been considering taking half a dose eod..
 
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Interesting about the hawthorn making it spike.. Would it eventually bring it back down?

I'm on my 3rd week of my cycle and my bp has gone up quite a bit..

Basically, I've only been taking agmatine to help my bp.. I have some research cialis that I've been considering taking half a dose eod..
Yeah I've not tried hawthorn berry once it's elevated I always start it week before cycle. But this is what I have heard it can spike it but right now my blood pressure is perfect on cycle thanks to hawthorn. Actually it's better than when I'm not on cycle
 
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Damn.. I wish I would've gotten a head start on this.. I'm gonna start on the baby aspirin too.
 

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Interesting about the hawthorn making it spike.. Would it eventually bring it back down?

I'm on my 3rd week of my cycle and my bp has gone up quite a bit..

Basically, I've only been taking agmatine to help my bp.. I have some research cialis that I've been considering taking half a dose eod..
I would dose the Cialis pretty high for blood pressure. 20mg ED would be a good place to start. That dose kept my blood pressure perfect during my Halodrol kickstart.
 
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I think this morning it was around 140/94
 

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is it true that donating blood make ur blood pressure drop?
 
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OK, 1 day later, I took my aspirin last night, and again this morning. I increased my water intake, and dosed the liquid cialis at about 15mg yesterday and today.
I felt much better overall today.
 

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OK, 1 day later, I took my aspirin last night, and again this morning. I increased my water intake, and dosed the liquid cialis at about 15mg yesterday and today.
I felt much better overall today.
I aborted my cycle due to reading similar to urs btw
 

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I know you like to handle things naturally, but you should have tried the Cialis.
well I have this stupid fear that my dick will be dependant on that **** if I take , I know It sound stupid .
 

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well I have this stupid fear that my dick will be dependant on that **** if I take , I know It sound stupid .
In my experience, taking Cialis for blood pressure on cycle does not have the same effect on my dick that it does when I've taken it off cycle. It seems like it just kind of fixes the blood pressure problem and that's it, even at the higher dose. YMMV.
 

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It's actually a lot based one what steroids u use. Have you been seeing by a doctor?
 
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Try Hawthorne Berry as others have said.

Also Celery Seed Extract, Potassium Nitrate, Agmatine and other things that dilate the arteries.
 

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Try Hawthorne Berry as others have said.

Also Celery Seed Extract, Potassium Nitrate, Agmatine and other things that dilate the arteries.
only thing I haven't tried so far is nitrates, everything else I tried
 
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ok I think I found my bp meds , looks promising
I always giggle when bodybuilders shoot UGL gear into their azzes, not knowing what's in it -and when it comes to control blood pressure, they use natural supplements, LMAO !
 

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I always giggle when bodybuilders shoot UGL gear into their azzes, not knowing what's in it -and when it comes to control blood pressure, they use natural supplements, LMAO !
lollllllll very very very damn good point.
it's probably scary since it's bp meds ppl don't want to mess with it, I remember now someone else recommended it for me and say it's side effect free and its last gen bp meds which is cool.
what ur doses for bp n fat loss
 
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lollllllll very very very damn good point.
it's probably scary since it's bp meds ppl don't want to mess with it, I remember now someone else recommended it for me and say it's side effect free and its last gen bp meds which is cool.
what ur doses for bp n fat loss
80mg/day.
Used a potassium sparing diuretic too for one day to shed water.
Not seeing much of a fat loss -but BP is down from 180/120 (came suddenly during NPP cycle) to 145/85. High RBC and holding water was probably the culprit.
Donated 2 times blood (once a month) using different hospitals. RBC still high, will donate again at the end of April.
After 3 month red blood cells die off, problem should be resolved by then and will see if BP meds are still needed.
 

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80mg/day.
Used a potassium sparing diuretic too for one day to shed water.
Not seeing much of a fat loss -but BP is down from 180/120 (came suddenly during NPP cycle) to 145/85. High RBC and holding water was probably the culprit.
Donated 2 times blood (once a month) using different hospitals. RBC still high, will donate again at the end of April.
After 3 month red blood cells die off, problem should be resolved by then and will see if BP meds are still needed.
very intense high bp I was panicking about 140/ 80 without meds !
good luck man I know u gotta be careful using potassium supplement while on bp meds because it significantly increase potassium levels
 
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How do you feel at 140/94?
Face was bright red and very hot.. Could tell my heart rate was elevated.. Later that day, I came down with a slight headache.

So, in other words, ****ty... Lol.
 

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Face was bright red and very hot.. Could tell my heart rate was elevated.. Later that day, I came down with a slight headache.

So, in other words, ****ty... Lol.
I ask cuz I've gone to 145ish and felt fine, just got those readings on my machine.. but my bottom number was at 70 usually stays there
 
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