Which is a better stack?

[khall1974]

Age: 42
Height: 6'2
Weight: 235
BF: 18%
4 day split routine with 2 days of slow state cardio thrown in.

Which is a better combo? DMZ 30 mg/Epiandro 1000mg or DMZ/4 andro 330mg...

On cycle support with be tudca 500mg and ironlabs cycle support. Any other cycle support needed based on either cycle.
Thanks for your help in this matter.

 

[InItForGainz]

In my opinion it'd be
DMZ+Epi-Andro. It would be a great strength stack whilst also helping you lean out.

I'd run OL's Ar1macare Pro over the Ironlabs support. Ar1macare pro is a much more inclusive On Cycle Support. I'd also suggest increasing your daily water intake whilst on DMZ.

What have you got for PCT?

 

[Woody]

EpiAndro will be drier but 4Andro will probably be a more effective test base. Epi will serve as a good base too, though.

 

[elo76]

So would epi only be sufficient at 1000? I saw where someone still experienced lethargy while only using epi. The dose was < 1000 though.

 

[bighulksmash]

It solely depends on what you're trying to accomplish from the cycle what are your goals for this cycle.

 

[M.I.D]

DMZ,EPI and 4AD would be awesome

 

[khall1974]

I am going to stack the 4 andro with DMZ.

PCT will be Clomid 50/50/25/25/25/12.5/12.5, kingsblood, sup3r 7 from OL.

 

[M.I.D]

I am going to stack the 4 andro with DMZ.

PCT will be Clomid 50/50/25/25/25/12.5/12.5, kingsblood, sup3r 7 from OL.

7 weeks clomid? 6 will be more than enough.

 

[nosnmiveins]

7 weeks clomid? 6 will be more than enough.

4 weeks would be more than enough

 

[khall1974]

It is funny...after running clomid for 4 weeks on my last cyle my test was higher than when I started.

 

[M.I.D]

4 weeks would be more than enough

4 week PCTs are stupid, needs to be 6 weeks for a better more stable recovery

 

[M.I.D]

It is funny...after running clomid for 4 weeks on my last cyle my test was higher than when I started.

course it was, it shoots it up hugely, then it drops hugely again after a while off it

 

[nosnmiveins]

4 week PCTs are stupid, needs to be 6 weeks for a better more stable recovery

To each his own. Been in this game a long time and no one I've ever known has run a 6 week PCT

 

[ChocolateClen]

I've run 6 and 4 weeks before, felt no different between either. Only time I run 6 is when I'm running 16+ week cycles

 

[M.I.D]

There is studies I have read that prove longer time on clomid at lower dose gives a better and more stable recovery, keeping your test levels higher for longer and not necessarily crashing as much as they would from 4 weeks...

The study was posted on here sometime over last 2 weeks I am sure.

Take a look at this thread its good.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/288167-new-clomiphene-study-2.html

 

[Ricky10]

I think DMZ with the Epiandro would be too dry -> sore joints. I would just get some dermacrine while you still can and call it good.

 

[M.I.D]

I think DMZ with the Epiandro would be too dry -> sore joints. I would just get some dermacrine while you still can and call it good.

I ran DMZ with Stano and an AI and it was perfect, but everyone is different