r-andro shred cycle or halo?

[Syanide]

hey guys,

I'll be starting my first ph cycle soon and have been researching for probably too long but still not sure if I would be better off with halo over r-andro shred.

I'm looking to get rid of some fat and put on some lean muscle..
currently:

45 years old
approx 25% BF
93 kg

here is what i currently have ready..

going to do 8 weeks and 4 pct.

on cycle:
R-Andro Shred 2 (2 bottles) androsterone (100mg) / 7-ketodhea (50mg)
sup3r Dhea (2 bottles) - to stop lethargy
assault labs - blockade
taurine/glutamine/amino's/fish oil

also have estro-strike. should I also use this on cycle?

PCT:
Novadren XT
vital labs - post cycle 3X
nolva @ 20/20/10/10

Not sure i would need anything else.. and also not sure if halo would be a better choice than r-andro shred for lean muscle and fat loss. ??

any advice woudl be appreciated guys.

 

[nosnmiveins]

whats Halo? please tell me you're not refering to halotestin...

 

[Syanide]

whats Halo? please tell me you're not refering to halotestin...

no.. halodrol (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol )

 

[nosnmiveins]

no.. halodrol (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol )

Ok, just had to make sure. Is this pre-ban halo? If so, it will probably produce better gains than any of those andro ones out now

 

[Syanide]

im uk based so can still get the original halodrol in the uk

 

[nosnmiveins]

im uk based so can still get the original halodrol in the uk

Well if thats the case, then halodrol will be perfect for a first cycle. Then later down the road you have options like epistane, "tren", superdrol...etc

With all of these you will need nolvadex or clomid for PCT

 

[solidsnake]

Yeah I'd sack the Andros, there's a reason there still legal, go for the halo and thank us later

 

[Syanide]

cool thanks guys.. so i will need clomid also for pct with halo?

i've got nolva to run at 20/20/10/10 , so would I run clomid at the same time? and at what dosage?

 

[Syanide]

should i also run the estro-stike during the cycle or leave it out?

 

[PlateHead45]

Well if thats the case, then halodrol will be perfect for a first cycle. Then later down the road you have options like epistane, "tren", superdrol...etc

With all of these you will need nolvadex or clomid for PCT

"Tren" ? Why the quotations? lol

 

[nosnmiveins]

"Tren" ? Why the quotations? lol

Because all the supplement companies decided it was a good idea to call estra 4,9/19 nor products tren. So when i talk about real tren, i say tren.....when i talk about oral version who's name was stolen from the actually anabolic trenbolone, i say "tren"

 

[PlateHead45]

Because all the supplement companies decided it was a good idea to call estra 4,9/19 nor products tren. So when i talk about real tren, i say tren.....when i talk about oral version who's name was stolen from the actually anabolic trenbolone, i say "tren"

Ah gotcha, so you're talking about like Trenavar that converts?

 

[netflixNchill]

Cannot believe nobody brought up the fact that he's 25% BF

Do NOT cycle until you're at the very least 16-18% BF, and even that is pushing it

 

[nosnmiveins]

Ah gotcha, so you're talking about like Trenavar that converts?

Correct

Cannot believe nobody brought up the fact that he's 25% BF

Do NOT cycle until you're at the very least 16-18% BF, and even that is pushing it

True, I did in fact overlook that............but the man is 45 years old and should be well aware of the potential risks

 

[solidsnake]

But also hes gonna do it anyway regardless what we say

 

[Syanide]

Cannot believe nobody brought up the fact that he's 25% BF

Do NOT cycle until you're at the very least 16-18% BF, and even that is pushing it

ah... i thought 20% would have been ok.. just started a cut for 3 months before I was going to start the cycle..
looks like i'll wait till at least15% then to ensure estrogen is more controlled.

I know not to start a ph cycle 25% due to estrogen issues.. should have mentioned that in the first post.. just realised after your comment..

 

[M.I.D]

run r-andro and halo, youll need a base for halo anyway so use r-andro as base...

Would be a nice cycle..

I really like andros, they work well