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I am tired of the normal ..I want to get huge I have been kicking around pinning for a year and this is my year to jump in.....if you could do it over what would be your first run on cycle...I am 29 btw
Dry gains; it's pretty good for a first run, easy 10-20lbs if you know what you're doing with diet and training imoThat's cool. What kind of results
You get use to it quickly. Long esters you pin twice a week. IM injections are nothing to me anymoreThat would be your first run? I hate needles. Lol. I will take any pill tho
I've never personally ran injectables; but if I wasn't living with my family, I would in all honesty.You get use to it quickly. Long esters you pin twice a week. IM injections are nothing to me anymore
Yeah that can be a problem. I'm on probation so I don't keep gear in my house, I keep it somewhere safe but it's why I only run long estersI've never personally ran injectables; but if I wasn't living with my family, I would in all honesty.
Probation that's sucksYeah that can be a problem. I'm on probation so I don't keep gear in my house, I keep it somewhere safe but it's why I only run long esters
Orals are fine for your first; it's a good way to get your feet wet and determine whether or not you want to step it up a notch.Yeah. I want to Dan with oral roids first. Not inject ...but if that's what makes me big I am in lol
Try some HDROL - works well.Any good recommendations for a first run ? Anyone ?
Can I just ask how you were dosing the Epistane and what sides you noticed?Dry gains; it's pretty good for a first run, easy 10-20lbs if you know what you're doing with diet and training imo
Wow man, what did you use your first cycle to gain like that? That's crazy!Test prop 500mg weeks 1-4 then 12-16
Test e 500mg weeks 1-12
To be honest tho I'm happy with my first run. No many people can say they packed on 43 lbs and kept 38....
Concoction of 4 prohormones as a kickstarter for 6 weeks coupled with test e running 500mg a week for 6 weeks then 750mg for 6 weeks then 1000mg for 4.Wow man, what did you use your first cycle to gain like that? That's crazy!
20/30/30/40 achy joints, back pumps, shin pumps were the main onesCan I just ask how you were dosing the Epistane and what sides you noticed?
When I ran epistane, I ran it with Max-LMG. That was a nice wet compound to counteract the dryness. It's also a more mild compound, and non-methylated, so it is good for a beginner stack for those who still have access to it. It also adds nice muscle fullness that didn't seem to take away from the epistane vascularity. Just make sure to grab a natty prolactin control like Inhibit-P with the LMG. It is a progestin, albeit a mild one.20/30/30/40 achy joints, back pumps, shin pumps were the main ones
If you were to recommend an Epistane product what would it be?20/30/30/40 achy joints, back pumps, shin pumps were the main ones
Take taurine for the back pumps, fish oil for the joints, some guys need an ai for rebound estrogen spikes. When I took epistane I never had to use an ai.If you were to recommend an Epistane product what would it be?
What cycle advice, if any, would you give to an Epistane first timer?
I took rpn havoc, which isnt produced any more. 3-5g taurine a day with joint support should cover the back/shin pumps and joint issues. Have an aromatize inhibitor on hand; epistane is notorious for rebound gyno and even gyno towards the end of cyclesIf you were to recommend an Epistane product what would it be?
What cycle advice, if any, would you give to an Epistane first timer?
Methylstenbolone has presented less side effects for me so far; Just get a solid cycle support and some tudca because it's more harsh on the organs from what I've heardMsten or epi. For a first run. Or just go test-e.
Everyone has pretty much covered it. I always recommend an AI on cycle. I used 6.25mg per day (1/4 dose) of exemestane for the AI. This can be continued into PCT to prevent rebound gyno.If you were to recommend an Epistane product what would it be?
What cycle advice, if any, would you give to an Epistane first timer?
First off why didn't you have your pct squared away before starting? Also 20/20/10/10 nolva is the norm PLUS clomid. Nolva doesn't do **** to get your balls working again it's just good for estrogen control.What do u guys recommend for pct on epistane. I'm on epistane and have nolva. Is 20/20/20/20 good or should is that too little/too much?
What about lsh and fsh? I didn't think nolva even touched those. From what I've read clomid does a much better job on its own and coupled with nolva it works even better. I'll have to read up on some more studies to get some numbers crunched to see just how much better clomid is.Clomid and nolva both reboot hpta...You dont need clomid; nolva alone should be fine after your cycle
Together is better; but nolva alone after a simple oral cycle should be enough in my opinionWhat about lsh and fsh? I didn't think nolva even touched those. From what I've read clomid does a much better job on its own and coupled with nolva it works even better. I'll have to read up on some more studies to get some numbers crunched to see just how much better clomid is.
I guess for this kind of cycle it could be but again it's your pct, it's the only thing between keeping a lot of your gains post cycle and losing them. Why cut corners in the hopes to save some money when you spent a lot on cycle already for gains that you could possibly lose if you don't get restarted quick enoughTogether is better; but nolva alone after a simple oral cycle should be enough in my opinion
Like I said; together is better, but one or the other alone is enough for a solo oral run in my opinionI guess for this kind of cycle it could be but again it's your pct, it's the only thing between keeping a lot of your gains post cycle and losing them. Why cut corners in the hopes to save some money when you spent a lot on cycle already for gains that you could possibly lose if you don't get restarted quick enough
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