Stacking SARMS with Epicatechin

[Odio]

I am currently on week 6 of a 3-stack sarm cycle (GW, Ostarine/LGD, MK677) and I've just cycled off Ostarine today and will be starting 8 weeks of LGD. I have a big pouch of epicatechin coming to me, and was wondering if I should use it on cycle or save it for PCT(Tamoxifen and Sup3r PCT, maybe some laxogenin for good measure).



Week 1-6: 20mg GW-501516, 25mg Ostarine, 30mg MK677
Week 6-8 20mg GW-501516, 10mg LGD, 30mg MK677
Week 8-14 10mg LGD, 30mg MK677

PCT: 30mg mk677, Tamixofen, TUDCA, Sup3r PCT, Laxogenin

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Two ways you can look at epicatechin (and these are not necessarily isolated/self exclusive)...

1) epicat is a health supp, and is beneficial on and off-cycle

2) epicat is a natty "anabolic" and probably better utilised off-cycle

I choose to use it on-cycle due to (1).

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I am currently on week 6 of a 3-stack sarm cycle (GW, Ostarine/LGD, MK677) and I've just cycled off Ostarine today and will be starting 8 weeks of LGD. I have a big pouch of epicatechin coming to me, and was wondering if I should use it on cycle or save it for PCT(Tamoxifen and Sup3r PCT, maybe some laxogenin for good measure).

14 weeks on sarms? thats ambitious. What dosages have you been using of each compound?

 

[user567]

I am currently on week 6 of a 3-stack sarm cycle (GW, Ostarine/LGD, MK677) and I've just cycled off Ostarine today and will be starting 8 weeks of LGD. I have a big pouch of epicatechin coming to me, and was wondering if I should use it on cycle or save it for PCT(Tamoxifen and Sup3r PCT, maybe some laxogenin for good measure).

Might want to wait a few months before jumping in to LGD. Let your body recover

 

[NewAgeMayan]

14 weeks on sarms? thats ambitious. What dosages have you been using of each compound?

14 weeks of LGD to boot :eeeeeeeek:

 

[Odio]

14 weeks on sarms? thats ambitious. What dosages have you been using of each compound?

I started low, currently at 20mg for GW, 30mg for MK677, was at 25mg for Ostarine, startign at 10mg of LGD because I had much success with 8mg of LEG3ND

Might want to wait a few months before jumping in to LGD. Let your body recover

If I did that, then it wouldn't be a stack. (Yea it would, but a ****ty one)

14 weeks of LGD to boot :eeeeeeeek:

6 weeks of Ostarine, maybe 8 weeks of LGD.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I found your OP confusing lol....

 

[Odio]

I fixed it up a bit.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I fixed it up a bit.

I said the same thing in another thread: Id only consider runnning SARMs for 8+wks if I had bloods done confirming lipids are in range.

 

[Odio]

I'm very confident in my diet and PCT. I'm going to get bloods done afterwards though and if I think about it, I will post them here.









So the myostatin inhibiting effects of epicatechin make it worth using on cycle?

 

[LeanEngineer]

I'd say if you have enough epicatechin run it on cycle and during pct. If you have to pick one or the other i'd run it during pct.

 

[Odio]

You ****ers have gotten into my head, and I am now having second thoughts as to whether or not 40/30/20/10/5/5 nolva will be enough PCT for a 14 week cycle. EVEN THOUGH I haven't experienced any shut down side effects yet with less than 4 weeks left to go. No lethargy and my boys are still their normal size. If I did change my PCT, I feel it should be something like 20/20/20/20 for nolva and 50/50/25/25 for clomid. But I don't know because I haven't ran a cycle this long before.


Personally, two SERMs feels like overkill for recovery when I don't appear to be that shut down. I have recovered from quite a few PH (HDrol/Epi) cycles without using a SERM at all. The only time I was glad to have one on hand was when I ran a 6 week 4ad/1ad stack. But this is the first time I have been on cycle this long, so what normally works probably won't is my first instinct.