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Ok so i know this has been talked about before but the thread died. And i want to revisit it for the hell of it.
"What TESTOGEL contains
-
The active substance is testosterone. Each
5 g sachet contains
50 mg testosterone.
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The other ingredients are Carbomer 980, isopropyl myristate, ethanol 96%, sodium
hydroxide, purified water. "
So according to this list it leaves questions of how to deal with these main ingredients.
Carbomer 980
According to nps
This is an active ingredient in Eye Gels and Drops. Because the Eye is an internal part of the body and is filled with capillaries that suggests to me that there would be no issue with this component when it comes to injections.
isopropyl myristate
This one ingredient highly talked about but after some research i found this study
titled "A study of the adaptability of isopropyl myristate for use as a vehicle for parenteral injections". penteral injections being parenteral [pah-ren´ter-al]
by some route other than through the alimentary canal, such as by subcutaneous, intramuscular, intrasternal, or intravenous injection.
according to the following abstract it suggest there would be very low irratiability or issue with this compound.
Abstract:
"Studies of isopropyl myristate show that it has a very low degree of irritability and exhibits no sensitizing propensities in animals following topical and parenteral administration. It is nontoxic to animals, and well tolerated following injections of moderate amounts. Its mixture with aluminum monostearate in 2 per cent solution of the latter compound retains effective therapeutic concentrations of penicillin (procaine enicillin) for periods up to forty-eight hours after intramuscular injection in rabkts. In experiments on ovariectomized rats it compared favorably with sesame oil as a repository vehicle for estrogens."
ethanol 96%
According to the solubility of ethanol and other alcohols
Alcohol solubility chart
Name Formula Solubility
Methanol CH3OH miscible
Ethanol C2H5OH miscible
Propanol C3H7OH miscible
Butanol C4H9OH 0.11
Pentanol C5H11OH 0.030
Hexanol C6H13OH 0.0058
Heptanol C7H15OH 0.0008
As previously discussed in the original thread simply mixing water would neutralize this element of the gel.
sodium hydroxide
Now this is the main ingredient that has caused a lot of talk. But according to all sources neutralizing Sodium Hydroxide is as simple as using Hydrocloric acid to a 1:1 volume.
This chemical reaction creates two harmless molecules: WATER AND SALT
NaOH + HCl → NaCl (salt) + H20 (water)
and according to a following study on the use of Hydrochloric acid injections
"CONCLUSIONS:
The 6 mol/l hydrochloric acid is an effective endogenetic protein coagulator"
I am not sure exactly what that would mean for a testosterone base injection. but the study does show that small amounts of HCL are SAFE for injections. So you could use it to neutralize the NaOH and not worry too much about using too much of it. Plus the presence of the water would just increase the reactions between NaOH and HCL
purified water
Enough said
So to my understading, Using water and low mol Hydrochloric acid would neutralize the gel to little more than testosterone, water and salt.
Then using an oil as a carrier for the testosterone you could simply boil off the water leaving testosterone in oil and salts. Provided that you did no COOK and destroy the test.
i also found a table of the melting points of various steroids on basskilleronline
Provided i could find the information for which steroid/test is in TESTOGEL this information could be used to find the right temperature to safely boil off the water and have to test bond with the carrier oil.
Please someone chip in with their thoughts. Ive been having a lot of fun with researching this and really want to know if my chemistry knowledge is up to par these days.
"What TESTOGEL contains
-
The active substance is testosterone. Each
5 g sachet contains
50 mg testosterone.
-
The other ingredients are Carbomer 980, isopropyl myristate, ethanol 96%, sodium
hydroxide, purified water. "
So according to this list it leaves questions of how to deal with these main ingredients.
Carbomer 980
According to nps
This is an active ingredient in Eye Gels and Drops. Because the Eye is an internal part of the body and is filled with capillaries that suggests to me that there would be no issue with this component when it comes to injections.
isopropyl myristate
This one ingredient highly talked about but after some research i found this study
titled "A study of the adaptability of isopropyl myristate for use as a vehicle for parenteral injections". penteral injections being parenteral [pah-ren´ter-al]
by some route other than through the alimentary canal, such as by subcutaneous, intramuscular, intrasternal, or intravenous injection.
according to the following abstract it suggest there would be very low irratiability or issue with this compound.
Abstract:
"Studies of isopropyl myristate show that it has a very low degree of irritability and exhibits no sensitizing propensities in animals following topical and parenteral administration. It is nontoxic to animals, and well tolerated following injections of moderate amounts. Its mixture with aluminum monostearate in 2 per cent solution of the latter compound retains effective therapeutic concentrations of penicillin (procaine enicillin) for periods up to forty-eight hours after intramuscular injection in rabkts. In experiments on ovariectomized rats it compared favorably with sesame oil as a repository vehicle for estrogens."
ethanol 96%
According to the solubility of ethanol and other alcohols
Alcohol solubility chart
Name Formula Solubility
Methanol CH3OH miscible
Ethanol C2H5OH miscible
Propanol C3H7OH miscible
Butanol C4H9OH 0.11
Pentanol C5H11OH 0.030
Hexanol C6H13OH 0.0058
Heptanol C7H15OH 0.0008
As previously discussed in the original thread simply mixing water would neutralize this element of the gel.
sodium hydroxide
Now this is the main ingredient that has caused a lot of talk. But according to all sources neutralizing Sodium Hydroxide is as simple as using Hydrocloric acid to a 1:1 volume.
This chemical reaction creates two harmless molecules: WATER AND SALT
NaOH + HCl → NaCl (salt) + H20 (water)
and according to a following study on the use of Hydrochloric acid injections
"CONCLUSIONS:
The 6 mol/l hydrochloric acid is an effective endogenetic protein coagulator"
I am not sure exactly what that would mean for a testosterone base injection. but the study does show that small amounts of HCL are SAFE for injections. So you could use it to neutralize the NaOH and not worry too much about using too much of it. Plus the presence of the water would just increase the reactions between NaOH and HCL
purified water
Enough said
So to my understading, Using water and low mol Hydrochloric acid would neutralize the gel to little more than testosterone, water and salt.
Then using an oil as a carrier for the testosterone you could simply boil off the water leaving testosterone in oil and salts. Provided that you did no COOK and destroy the test.
i also found a table of the melting points of various steroids on basskilleronline
Provided i could find the information for which steroid/test is in TESTOGEL this information could be used to find the right temperature to safely boil off the water and have to test bond with the carrier oil.
Please someone chip in with their thoughts. Ive been having a lot of fun with researching this and really want to know if my chemistry knowledge is up to par these days.
