1-Andro question

[drejb]

Hey guys. Still learning daily.

Quick question.

If I take 1-andro at 220/week for 6 weeks

Could I use Dermacrine instead of 4-andro to reduce lethargy and killed libido?

So

Stack 1-andro 220/220/220/220/220/220 plus Dermacrins (dose unknown) instead of the classic 1/4 stack?

I want to do this because I hear it will be less harsh on the body

Please let me know

Cheers

 

[Nathan1722]

Yes you can but if I were you I'd run it for 8 weeks and at a dose of 330mg I'm running it for the first time a month in and it's very mild and th gains just started for me in the third week but dermacrine or sup3r dhea will be perfect

 

[drejb]

Yes you can but if I were you I'd run it for 8 weeks and at a dose of 330mg I'm running it for the first time a month in and it's very mild and th gains just started for me in the third week but dermacrine or sup3r dhea will be perfect

You ever run anything before?

 

[Nathan1722]

Do you have a good on cycle and serm?

 

[Nathan1722]

I've run osta and tr3st/dermatr3st

 

[drejb]

Do you have a good on cycle and serm?

I'll be running Nolva 20/20/10/10 (if I choose to do this run)

Nothing planned for on cycle. Adex on hand for a test E run in the future

 

[Nathan1722]

For on cycle I use ar1micare pro should keep your organs pretty healthy on cycle

 

[drejb]

For on cycle I use ar1micare pro should keep your organs pretty healthy on cycle

Isn't 1-andro relatively mild on the organs now that it's not methylated?

 

[Nathan1722]

Yea it is but it can definitely mess with your lipids and some other things it's no expensive and it keeps you healthy

 

[drejb]

Yea it is but it can definitely mess with your lipids and some other things it's no expensive and it keeps you healthy

Which brand of andro are you using?

 

[Nathan1722]

Olympus labs sup3r 1 it has the best bang for your buck and all of their products are high quality

 

[drejb]

Olympus labs sup3r 1 it has the best bang for your buck and all of their products are high quality

How much dermacrine should I run? What are you running as a base?

 

[Nathan1722]

I'm using epiandro I'm not to sure about dermacrine but for sup3r dhea if you're 150 to 200 pounds you only need one and a half pumps

 

[drejb]

I'm using epiandro I'm not to sure about dermacrine but for sup3r dhea if you're 150 to 200 pounds you only need one and a half pumps

Okay cool. I think if I'm gonna do this, to save money I'm going to grab two bottles of Super-1 and run 220/220/220/330/330/330 $90 ($120 CAD) for 2 bottles and it'll put me at a 6 week quick run. plus I've never ran any anabolic so I'm gonna start low and short to see how my body reacts.

Stats 5'11

200lb

27 YO

13% BF

Bench 300
Squat 405
Deadlift 550
Strict press 180

 

[Nathan1722]

Sounds good man I'm assuming you're bulking?

 

[drejb]

Sounds good man I'm assuming you're bulking?

Yeah bulking and trying to stay as dry as possible. Want to run this mainly to see how my body reacts to messing with the hormones a little. Planning on running a 12 week test run in the spring. I'll be happy if I gain 10lbs in 6 weeks on this stuff (which I should, because I've never taken anything before)

 

[Nathan1722]

Yea I'm right about to be at the month mark and have gained 7 pounds you can definitely do 10 in 6 and it should yield pretty dry gains I'm jealous of the test cycle I can't wait to get my hands on some gear will you be logging your run?

 

[drejb]

Yea I'm right about to be at the month mark and have gained 7 pounds you can definitely do 10 in 6 and it should yield pretty dry gains I'm jealous of the test cycle I can't wait to get my hands on some gear will you be logging your run?

I'll probably do a lazy log. Just to track gains and any sides (if any). I'm expecting most sides to come in PCT. I'm terrified to see how I react to Nolva and curious to see how long it'll take for my natty test to come back and be stable

 

[Nathan1722]

The only side effect I got from nolva was hot flashes sometimes at night but that's it if you want to feel better during pct you could look into super pct or get a solid test booster for after pct like tes1fy however it's not mandatory

 

[drejb]

Here's the idea.... FYI my test only quote for 12 weeks with Nolva and Adex is actually cheaper lmao

 

[Nathan1722]

I think you can use a half dose of ar1micare pro for 1 andro so it should save you a bottle and yea that makes sense it's cheaper healthier and way more gains the main thing I like about andros is no shutdown

 

[drejb]

I think you can use a half dose of ar1micare pro for 1 andro so it should save you a bottle and yea that makes sense it's cheaper healthier and way more gains the main thing I like about andros is no shutdown

Andros shut you down. Which is why a serm is required for PCT. at least that's what everyone says

 

[Nathan1722]

Mmm my testicles haven't had any atrophy at all yet a serm will ensure your body returns to homeostasis and does it quicker so it's a lot easier to recover I don't think it will shut me down but it will definitely surpress you a little

 

[drejb]

Mmm my testicles haven't had any atrophy at all yet a serm will ensure your body returns to homeostasis and does it quicker so it's a lot easier to recover I don't think it will shut me down but it will definitely surpress you a little

Ahhhh I see. So they're suppressive but don't completely shut down test production is what you're saying. That's pretty cool.. ever run bloods?


Would love to hear the opinion of others who have run Andros as well to get some perspective

 

[Nathan1722]

Yea exactly. No I've never done bloods that's why I'll always use a serm and there's a lot of andro logs you could look up man! There's a few going on right now even

 

[drejb]

Yea exactly. No I've never done bloods that's why I'll always use a serm and there's a lot of andro logs you could look up man! There's a few going on right now even

Wicked I'll read some more. Thanks for the advice brother. Good chat. I'll tag you once I log should I choose to proceed

 

[Nathan1722]

Anytime Im glad I could help and sounds awesome! I'll be following along for sure

 

[tsst]

So you used Super-DHEA instead of 4?

How'd it go?

 

[Bestia956]

Hey guys. Still learning daily.

Quick question.

If I take 1-andro at 220/week for 6 weeks

Could I use Dermacrine instead of 4-andro to reduce lethargy and killed libido?

So

Stack 1-andro 220/220/220/220/220/220 plus Dermacrins (dose unknown) instead of the classic 1/4 stack?

I want to do this because I hear it will be less harsh on the body

Please let me know

Cheers

220 of 1 andro u ain't going to seee any results
Right now im on end of 3rd week
440 of 1 andro
1000 of Epi andro
Not happy wit results i work out 4 times a week

 

[Vikingbro]

220 of 1 andro u ain't going to seee any results
Right now im on end of 3rd week
440 of 1 andro
1000 of Epi andro
Not happy wit results i work out 4 times a week

Andros take time to kick in. I've just completed 10 weeks 1 andro/4andro 330 mg and Epi 750 mg. I added 4.5 kg muscle, 4.4 kg fat. I would say that's pretty damn good

 

[Bmac63095]

220 of 1 andro u ain't going to seee any results
Right now im on end of 3rd week
440 of 1 andro
1000 of Epi andro
Not happy wit results i work out 4 times a week

I'm at week 6 of 1/4/epi at 330/330/1000 and have had massive strength. Started at about day 25

 

[Vikingbro]

I'm at week 6 of 1/4/epi at 330/330/1000 and have had massive strength. Started at about day 25

Same. My strength came around the 4 week mark. I actually had to stop myself loading on too many plates for fear of injuring myself so I was sensible with it.

 

[Bmac63095]

Same. My strength came around the 4 week mark. I actually had to stop myself loading on too many plates for fear of injuring myself so I was sensible with it.

Just started to get bad knee pain in my left knee from the squat weight going up 40 lbs

 

[Vikingbro]

Just started to get bad knee pain in my left knee from the squat weight going up 40 lbs

Yup I had the same with my shoulder so I dialled it back with the weight

 

[dvw]

Arimacare pro is not needed, replace dermacrine with transdermal Androsterone. Although dermacrine is still very good option.