What do you think he's running?

[drejb]

Hey guys. This questions is strictly lack of experience. And it may be too generalized or stupid af...

But what would I need to run to get this type of look?

That is my ideal physique.

This photo below is me currently, (on the right) not running anything and never have (probably obvious)

Let me know!

Cheers

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Bro he photoshops lmao...As to what he runs, we can't really determine

 

[drejb]

Bro he photoshops lmao...As to what he runs, we can't really determine

Lmao yeah he was busted before for doing so. I chose from his newer photos hoping he came to his senses and started being more honest.


Any recommendation on what could give me those types of gains? Dry / lean / solid size and not over the top

 

[SFreed]

Stupid question, but what's wrong with the way you look now?

 

[drejb]

Stupid question, but what's wrong with the way you look now?

I want to be bigger lol. I've been training for 12 years and this is about the best I can get naturally.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Looking more into designers like epistane, methylstenbolone, halodrol etc? Or aas like test, tren, dbol, winny etc?

 

[yates84]

Fuk what he's running, it's about what you should run for a first cycle and logical options for a first cycle are pretty limited.

 

[ChocolateClen]

If you're set on running stuff, I'd personally say skip all the prohormones if you have the ability too and the knowledge base to do so. A lot of PHs these days come with some really nasty sides now. But you need to know what you're doing, if you don't you could really mess yourself up. That's not just for aas, you can mess yourself up on pros too, I'd almost argue it's easier to do lasting damage using prohormones than it is AAS

 

[drejb]

Thanks guys. I'm pretty set on my plan on first cycle in February is to run Anavar 8 weeks 40/40/40/40/60/60/60/60. With Nolva 20/20/10/10 following. Just to see how my body reacts to AAS in general. Plus I have var on hand from a buddy who didn't end up running it in his test/tren cycle. I know people say don't run var without test. But I've seen some people get solid results off of var only if macros and training are in check. And it's more of a feeler for me.

I've done M1T at 19YO given to me by a buddy on my football team. I was young and stupid and don't think I did it long enough to see adverse effects. (2 weeks max I believe at low dose)

And then if all goes well there, gonna cycle 12 weeks Test E at 500mg/week. Adex on hand (had puberty gyno) and if **** goes south .25 EOD. Start PCT 2 weeks after my last pin at 40/40/20/20 Nolva. Maybe add some clomid ontop as well depending on how I react to the Nolva my first go around in February

 

[yates84]

Thanks guys. I'm pretty set on my plan on first cycle in February is to run Anavar 8 weeks 40/40/40/40/60/60/60/60. With Nolva 20/20/10/10 following. Just to see how my body reacts to AAS in general. Plus I have var on hand from a buddy who didn't end up running it in his test/tren cycle.

And then if all goes well there, gonna cycle 12 weeks Test E at 500mg/week. Adex on hand (had puberty gyno) and if **** goes south .25 EOD. Start PCT 2 weeks after my last pin at 40/40/20/20 Nolva. Maybe add some clomid ontop as well depending on how I react to the Nolva my first go around in February

Just have some extra nolva on hand for your test cycle in case estrogen gets out of hand. Sometimes an ai isn't quite enough.

 

[drejb]

Just have some extra nolva on hand for your test cycle in case estrogen gets out of hand. Sometimes an ai isn't quite enough.

What should I expect lipids / BP wise on these compounds?

 

[ChocolateClen]

Just have some extra nolva on hand for your test cycle in case estrogen gets out of hand. Sometimes an ai isn't quite enough.

I second this, also extend the wait time to 3 weeks for PCT. Honestly tho I'd run the car and test together, you'll have 4 weeks where you won't feel **** all from the test. That's why people use a kickstart when running test e

 

[drejb]

I second this, also extend the wait time to 3 weeks for PCT. Honestly tho I'd run the car and test together, you'll have 4 weeks where you won't feel **** all from the test. That's why people use a kickstart when running test e

I'm a very patient lad, and I am used to being soft and natty, so a few weeks of no effects wouldn't be the end of the world for me, as long as I come out on top in the end of it all it's a success to me!

Top advice though. Thanks for the responses.

I swear this forum is a gold mine of information. Hopefully I'll be as knowledgable as you all one day so I can run AAS in the safest most effective ways

 

[ChocolateClen]

I'm a very patient lad, and I am used to being soft and natty, so a few weeks of no effects wouldn't be the end of the world for me, as long as I come out on top in the end of it all it's a success to me!

Top advice though. Thanks for the responses.

I swear this forum is a gold mine of information. Hopefully I'll be as knowledgable as you all one day so I can run AAS in the safest most effective ways

Well if you ever do decide to kickstart your test, I've heard dbol is a pretty solid kickstart. You seem pretty set on not kickstarting tho which is a-ok. You'll still see some good gains off test only.

As for knowledge, everything I know I've learned on here. Love this forum, guys like yates84 know their **** and will help you as long as you aren't hard headed and stupid.

 

[yates84]

What should I expect lipids / BP wise on these compounds?

Lipids are always tanked when using anabolics. Not sure how your bp will react but that is something you will definitely want to monitor your whole cycle.

 

[drejb]

Lipids are always tanked when using anabolics. Not sure how your bp will react but that is something you will definitely want to monitor your whole cycle.

I have a pretty solid relationship with my doctor. So pre, mid, and post bloods with full disclosure will be done on both cycles. Maybe I'll log everything

Cheers man

 

[yates84]

I have a pretty solid relationship with my doctor. So pre, mid, and post bloods with full disclosure will be done on both cycles. Maybe I'll log everything

Cheers man

Just buy a bp monitor too, super cheap and can show you if you're on a bp increase. Bp about killed me my first few cycles and I don't want anyone to feel like I did then, it really sucked!

 

[ChocolateClen]

I have a pretty solid relationship with my doctor. So pre, mid, and post bloods with full disclosure will be done on both cycles. Maybe I'll log everything

Cheers man

You should def keep a log man, I kick started my test cycle and I'm on week 8 now and I'm up 31lbs. Still around the same BF as well

Buy a manual BP cuff as well, the electric ones always seem to be off

 

[yates84]

You should def keep a log man, I kick started my test cycle and I'm on week 8 now and I'm up 31lbs. Still around the same BF as well

Buy a manual BP cuff as well, the electric ones always seem to be off

Man, I wish I could still make gains like that. I'm happy with 10 pounds from a cycle if I can get it

 

[drejb]

Just buy a bp monitor too, super cheap and can show you if you're on a bp increase. Bp about killed me my first few cycles and I don't want anyone to feel like I did then, it really sucked!

What do you do when you're too high, cut back dose?

 

[ChocolateClen]

Man, I wish I could still make gains like that. I'm happy with 10 pounds from a cycle if I can get it

I'm shooting for 40 lbs lol that'll put me at 200ish

 

[yates84]

What do you do when you're too high, cut back dose?

You have multiple options but cutting back the dose isn't really one of them. My bp usually gets worse in pct! You can:
1. Give blood
2. Prescription bp meds (ace inhibitor)
3. Pde5 inhibitor like cialis
4. Natural vasodilators like argenine, citrulline etc..
5. Drink more water, lower salt intake

High bp is sometimes related to high estrogen and water retention as well, this needs to be taken into consideration as well.

 

[yates84]

I'm shooting for 40 lbs lol that'll put me at 200ish

I've doubled my starting weight so gains come a little bit slower. Glad your cycle is going good buddy

 

[drejb]

You have multiple options but cutting back the dose isn't really one of them. My bp usually gets worse in pct! You can:
1. Give blood
2. Prescription bp meds (ace inhibitor)
3. Pde5 inhibitor like cialis
4. Natural vasodilators like argenine, citrulline etc..
5. Drink more water, lower salt intake

High bp is sometimes related to high estrogen and water retention as well, this needs to be taken into consideration as well.

Dammmnn. This type of sht is what scares me away from the stuff. Especially now a days when you're seeing more people in their 20s and 30s dropping from heart attacks

 

[ChocolateClen]

I've doubled my starting weight so gains come a little bit slower. Glad your cycle is going good buddy

Doubled your starting weight holy **** lol what are you at right now? 300lbs? I'm calling bull lol

 

[ChocolateClen]

Dammmnn. This type of sht is what scares me away from the stuff. Especially now a days when you're seeing more people in their 20s and 30s dropping from heart attacks

Keep an eye on it, you'll be fine as long as you're aware of your body and catch it before it gets outta control.

 

[yates84]

Doubled your starting weight holy **** lol what are you at right now? 300lbs? I'm calling bull lol

I started at 105 bro, couldn't even bench press the naked bar lol

 

[yates84]

Dammmnn. This type of sht is what scares me away from the stuff. Especially now a days when you're seeing more people in their 20s and 30s dropping from heart attacks

Be prepared and you will be fine. Bp meds are stupid cheap and giving blood is free.

 

[drejb]

Be prepared and you will be fine. Bp meds are stupid cheap and giving blood is free.

I've wanted to give blood for a while but I can't go 6 months without getting tatted lol

 

[ChocolateClen]

I started at 105 bro, couldn't even bench press the naked bar lol

Chiiiit bro that's a crazy transformation I started out <130lbs but damn you hella big now lol

 

[yates84]

Chiiiit bro that's a crazy transformation I started out <130lbs but damn you hella big now lol

I'm still a little guy but I can lift a stupid amount of weight now

 

[ChocolateClen]

I'm still a little guy but I can lift a stupid amount of weight now

So you're a big little guy. Or a little guy with some balls lol

 

[uprightrows]

If you have a good relationship with your MD definitely get bloods done pre cycle, and even better if you can have real talk with him and get lisinopril (or metoprolol) for BP if that ends up being an issue.

You still might be putting the cart before the horse if you want to see how your body handles AAS, you should start with the test only cycle, not the oral only cycle. If this (AAS use) becomes a regular or somewhat frequent thing for you, you want to know how your body handles test, because you will realize quickly that you need at least a basic test base with your oral cycles, especially for you are going 8 weeks. And even if it is a one and done type cycle for you (it never is haha), you need test in there, If you don't, you'll feel like **** and your dick and brain won't function optimally

 

[AnabolicGuru]

You should def keep a log man, I kick started my test cycle and I'm on week 8 now and I'm up 31lbs. Still around the same BF as well

Buy a manual BP cuff as well, the electric ones always seem to be off

How tall are you and what was your previous cycle experience man? Curious as ive never ran injects

 

[ChocolateClen]

How tall are you and what was your previous cycle experience man? Curious as ive never ran injects

5'11 I ran some epistane back in highschool when I was a stupid mofo, as well as some halo I believe don't think I pcted for either of them smh. Tried out some RAD 140 and didn't like it a whole lot so I stopped that cycle short and did a short PCT. Then I got in to my kick start (wasn't originally a kick start) after a few months of research, ran epiandro, dmz, Msten, and norandro. It was pretty awesome, but I wasn't a fan of how my liver was treating me on that. Got a source for test midway through that cycle so I did some research and decided to add 12 weeks of test to solidify gains and keep making progress.

All in all I don't have a ton of experience compared to others, but I'm pretty happy with how I've gone about things. Still learning tho.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

5'11 I ran some epistane back in highschool when I was a stupid mofo, as well as some halo I believe don't think I pcted for either of them smh. Tried out some RAD 140 and didn't like it a whole lot so I stopped that cycle short and did a short PCT. Then I got in to my kick start (wasn't originally a kick start) after a few months of research, ran epiandro, dmz, Msten, and norandro. It was pretty awesome, but I wasn't a fan of how my liver was treating me on that. Got a source for test midway through that cycle so I did some research and decided to add 12 weeks of test to solidify gains and keep making progress.

All in all I don't have a ton of experience compared to others, but I'm pretty happy with how I've gone about things. Still learning tho.

Nice nice, hope you make it to 200 bro, hopefully after i take epistane this winter I'll get my hands on some test too

 

[ChocolateClen]

Nice nice, hope you make it to 200 bro, hopefully after i take epistane this winter I'll get my hands on some test too

Yeah man I'm not looking back haha Epi was nice tho you'll see some good gains off it.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Yeah man I'm not looking back haha Epi was nice tho you'll see some good gains off it.

This will be my second time taking epistane man hahaha

 

[ChocolateClen]

This will be my second time taking epistane man hahaha

Loved it that much man? Damn lol I wasn't a huge fan

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Loved it that much man? Damn lol I wasn't a huge fan

Yea man i loved it, given it was my first cycle. Will be running it longer this time

 

[ChocolateClen]

Yea man i loved it, given it was my first cycle. Will be running it longer this time

How long were you thinking at what dose this time?

 

[AnabolicGuru]

How long were you thinking at what dose this time?

6 weeks, having a hard time determining dosage. First time was 20/30/30/40, but im now 40lbs heavier than i was before that cycle.

 

[123abcabcabc]

Test Tren Mast

 

[briandward1]

Anavar is going to suppress your natural test production. Run test with it.