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How long do these stay good refridgerated and unopened in liquid form
 
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Caber very short if I recal.
I mean in compare with clom/aromasin I just used 2 maybe even 3 years old liquid and all good.
 
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Hard to say in general liquids should be good 1-2 years but you never know how long the keep this on the shelf before they sell it . Aparently high dosage of caber in some pepole boost their libido after aplication very quickly
 
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Hard to say in general liquids should be good 1-2 years but you never know how long the keep this on the shelf before they sell it . Aparently high dosage of caber in some pepole boost their libido after aplication very quickly
Yeah I know.
I have both and plan to try caber after my cycle to see how I respond to it.

My workout partner is wanting to run supertrenabol. I have it just sitting and won't run tren for a couple years.
Just want to know if my prami is still good
 
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Wait. Lots of people take caber in liquid form.
Can you point me to the info on it not being gtg in liquid.
The reason I ask is because as I finished my first cycle I got a lot of bad info on this site regarding Clomid.
Many people told me Clomid from research companies was going to be sketchy.
Then of course 45 seconds later I would get a message trying to sell me tabs of Clomid.
Clomid from good research companies work great. Absolutely perfect.
That's why I'm skeptical.
 
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Got some info from an OG and he said the caber is only good for a month in liquid.
So if the lab holds for a few week .....
Basically rascal your right. Thanks guys I'll go with prami
 

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Wait. Lots of people take caber in liquid form.
Can you point me to the info on it not being gtg in liquid.
The reason I ask is because as I finished my first cycle I got a lot of bad info on this site regarding Clomid.
Many people told me Clomid from research companies was going to be sketchy.
Then of course 45 seconds later I would get a message trying to sell me tabs of Clomid.
Clomid from good research companies work great. Absolutely perfect.
That's why I'm skeptical.
Hey yeah I've been told many times to stay away from RC. I don't think it's because people are trying to set you up for a sale from some overseas pharma, but because depending on the company it can be totally bunk, and then your sitting waiting for a shipment while shopping on Amazon for a training bra.

It depends on the company. If you've got a good to go source of RC, one you trust and have had good luck with like I have then stick with it. It's all about what works for you.

The caber information is not about RC being bad in general, but about this compound being prone to decomposition into another chemical.

For instance, epistane, that breaks down rather quickly some guys say. And that was from reputable sources in capsule. I think that's kinda where people are steering you.

Also if it pisses you off to get messages trying to sell you stuff just tell them where to stick it. There's no pressure here. There are other sites, many of them, where the site is geared to selling... RC from a specific site. Go check out evolutionary if you want to see what I'm talking about.
 
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Hey yeah I've been told many times to stay away from RC. I don't think it's because people are trying to set you up for a sale from some overseas pharma, but because depending on the company it can be totally bunk, and then your sitting waiting for a shipment while shopping on Amazon for a training bra.

It depends on the company. If you've got a good to go source of RC, one you trust and have had good luck with like I have then stick with it. It's all about what works for you.

The caber information is not about RC being bad in general, but about this compound being prone to decomposition into another chemical.

For instance, epistane, that breaks down rather quickly some guys say. And that was from reputable sources in capsule. I think that's kinda where people are steering you.

Also if it pisses you off to get messages trying to sell you stuff just tell them where to stick it. There's no pressure here. There are other sites, many of them, where the site is geared to selling... RC from a specific site. Go check out evolutionary if you want to see what I'm talking about.
Yeah i like that site.
Thanks bud
 
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Hey yeah I've been told many times to stay away from RC. I don't think it's because people are trying to set you up for a sale from some overseas pharma, but because depending on the company it can be totally bunk, and then your sitting waiting for a shipment while shopping on Amazon for a training bra.

It depends on the company. If you've got a good to go source of RC, one you trust and have had good luck with like I have then stick with it. It's all about what works for you.

The caber information is not about RC being bad in general, but about this compound being prone to decomposition into another chemical.

For instance, epistane, that breaks down rather quickly some guys say. And that was from reputable sources in capsule. I think that's kinda where people are steering you.

Also if it pisses you off to get messages trying to sell you stuff just tell them where to stick it. There's no pressure here. There are other sites, many of them, where the site is geared to selling... RC from a specific site. Go check out evolutionary if you want to see what I'm talking about.
I actually don't mind people trying to sell stuff.
Just don't like bull**** info give in to do so
 
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I've always heard that and see no reason personally to chance it
Totally.
No I'm not.
I was gunna wait till I'm off cycle to try it before I ran it when I needed it.
Some people get so sick from it.
 

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Totally.
No I'm not.
I was gunna wait till I'm off cycle to try it before I ran it when I needed it.
Some people get so sick from it.
Really? Like vomit or like flu symptoms? I've heard you have to ramp up. Start low, though I don't know the suggested dose increments. Be careful bud!
 
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Really? Like vomit or like flu symptoms? I've heard you have to ramp up. Start low, though I don't know the suggested dose increments. Be careful bud!
I mean like they describe it as " being poisoned"
 
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I've heard that about prami but not caber. I thought most prefer caber for that reason
Prami IS suppose to be more rough.
But caber is still no walk in the park.
From the two caber is easier that's why I planned to try it off cycle. But I've had my caber for several months and it's liquid So I just tossed it.
I'm giving my training partner the prami and I'll do my own experiment later.
Honestly I feel like I can hold off on tren for awhile.
I'm just as interested in libido boosting as I am prolactin control.
 
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I'm using prami now for a test/deca blast and the sides aren't bad. Some weird dreams on nights I take it but they're less frequent as time goes on. I can see why some hate it though
 

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Prami IS suppose to be more rough.
But caber is still no walk in the park.
From the two caber is easier that's why I planned to try it off cycle. But I've had my caber for several months and it's liquid So I just tossed it.
I'm giving my training partner the prami and I'll do my own experiment later.
Honestly I feel like I can hold off on tren for awhile.
I'm just as interested in libido boosting as I am prolactin control.
Hey I've heard Invictus is good for that and can be used in PCT. I grabbed some to give it a shot. It's B-Adrostenetriol. There's a thread on here about it. Supposed to be for cortisol control but I'm not sure how effective it is at that, but I've read a number of posts on all sorts of forums about the libido part. "Actually had trouble controlling the guy downstairs" is I believe what someone said. Toss in a mini dose of Cialis and your girl would probably have to quit on you first, not the other way around.
 
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First to make sure I can handle it. I wouldn't want experience prolactin sides and try to run one of the two and not be able to take it. Also running it while on PCT would be a libido booster
 

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uhhhh ... I don't recommend that at all, boss. i can appreciate wanting to be prepared - but, just putting things in your system to "see" if you can handle it is not the best idea. never forget, man ... we are messing with our natural hormonal systems when we do these kind of things. there are always going to be some sort of side-effects, whether you see/feel them or not. but just putting compounds into your system for no real reason - or for reasons they are not intended, is not a good idea at all.

that said -- if you are hell bent on doing it - skip the caber, and go with prami. start very very low dose ... 0.125mg. about an hour before sleep. do this for a week or two - then bump it 0.250mg. one of the positive side-effects from prami is that it releases natural GH the first two hour window after ingesting it. do NOT use RC - go with the real deal.
 
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uhhhh ... I don't recommend that at all, boss. i can appreciate wanting to be prepared - but, just putting things in your system to "see" if you can handle it is not the best idea. never forget, man ... we are messing with our natural hormonal systems when we do these kind of things. there are always going to be some sort of side-effects, whether you see/feel them or not. but just putting compounds into your system for no real reason - or for reasons they are not intended, is not a good idea at all.

that said -- if you are hell bent on doing it - skip the caber, and go with prami. start very very low dose ... 0.125mg. about an hour before sleep. do this for a week or two - then bump it 0.250mg. one of the positive side-effects from prami is that it releases natural GH the first two hour window after ingesting it. do NOT use RC - go with the real deal.
First of all LOVE THE HANDLE!!!!

I'm constantly experimenting with my body to try to pump out maximum performance and anti-aging.
If I ran it off cycle I could stop as necessary. Dose extremely low and ramp up slowly.
Prolactin levels are up in pct.
Plus I add mk677 in pct.
But thanks for the solid advice brother.
Your not from IE by any chance are you
 
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Also why no go on the caber?
I thought caber sides are easier
 

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What about b6? I know the recommended amount is insane but if something sub 300mg works, wouldn't it be OK? There are a ton of threads where people talk about how it was totally effective.
 
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What about b6? I know the recommended amount is insane but if something sub 300mg works, wouldn't it be OK? There are a ton of threads where people talk about how it was totally effective.
I ran inhibit p.
It was in pct and I felt it minorly.
On a scale of 1-10 I felt a 3-4
 

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I got no real issue with caber ... have run it with success, next to zero sides. only side I get from prami is having trouble sleeping when I start with dosages too high. that's why I recommended starting way lower than where most would. start at .125 mg an hour or so before bed. couple weeks later, bump it to .25. move up in small increments. with that being said -- I recommend the prami for the release of GH benefit. sides being equal - go with prami. I know guys having started at .125 once before bed that are now running several mg per day being administered in .75 dosages every two hours. prami is clinically shown to release GH the first two hours after administering. thus, they run it this way full time.



everyone reacts differently
 

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I got no real issue with caber ... have run it with success, next to zero sides. only side I get from prami is having trouble sleeping when I start with dosages too high. that's why I recommended starting way lower than where most would. start at .125 mg an hour or so before bed. couple weeks later, bump it to .25. move up in small increments. with that being said -- I recommend the prami for the release of GH benefit. sides being equal - go with prami. I know guys having started at .125 once before bed that are now running several mg per day being administered in .75 dosages every two hours. prami is clinically shown to release GH the first two hours after administering. thus, they run it this way full time.



everyone reacts differently
i have never had a side with caber and i use pharma grade
 
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I got no real issue with caber ... have run it with success, next to zero sides. only side I get from prami is having trouble sleeping when I start with dosages too high. that's why I recommended starting way lower than where most would. start at .125 mg an hour or so before bed. couple weeks later, bump it to .25. move up in small increments. with that being said -- I recommend the prami for the release of GH benefit. sides being equal - go with prami. I know guys having started at .125 once before bed that are now running several mg per day being administered in .75 dosages every two hours. prami is clinically shown to release GH the first two hours after administering. thus, they run it this way full time.



everyone reacts differently
Exactly. SLOWLY ramp up the dosage and you're gonna be fine
 

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Exactly. SLOWLY ramp up the dosage and you're gonna be fine
Guys run prami full time?? Thought it was just for prolactin control. Didn't know about the GH component either.
 
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Guys run prami full time?? Thought it was just for prolactin control. Didn't know about the GH component either.
I wouldn't recommend running it full time. Just when running a Nandrolone. It only raises gh for a couple hours
 
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Guys run prami full time?? Thought it was just for prolactin control. Didn't know about the GH component either.
Guys do all kinds of crazy ****.
Some run ostarine through pct.
 

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Guys do all kinds of crazy ****.
Some run ostarine through pct.
Oh yeah that sounds like a completely counterintuitive PCT stack lol. Doesn't OSTA shut you down with the hammer?
 
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Oh yeah that sounds like a completely counterintuitive PCT stack lol. Doesn't OSTA shut you down with the hammer?
What I'm thinking is people eventually blast and cruise.
Especially as we get older.
I'm 40 and was teetering on trt before I started AAS.
Now knowing how easy it is there no way in going back to having my test at 320.
So I'll cruise after next cycle.
I don't know if I'll use osta during a cruise, but the only way it's even considered is on trt.
 

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What I'm thinking is people eventually blast and cruise.
Especially as we get older.
I'm 40 and was teetering on trt before I started AAS.
Now knowing how easy it is there no way in going back to having my test at 320.
So I'll cruise after next cycle.
I don't know if I'll use osta during a cruise, but the only way it's even considered is on trt.
agreed on the blast and cruise, assuming this isn't a temporary game for you - I'm 48, and that's what I do...

personally -- I don't see the point of osta on a cruise. you are already maintenance dosing with test - so osta is just a waste of money, quite frankly.
I cruise on test and EQ, personally.

Question: why even mess with research chems if you blast and cruise?
 
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agreed on the blast and cruise, assuming this isn't a temporary game for you - I'm 48, and that's what I do...

personally -- I don't see the point of osta on a cruise. you are already maintenance dosing with test - so osta is just a waste of money, quite frankly.
I cruise on test and EQ, personally.

Question: why even mess with research chems if you blast and cruise?
If I wanted to cut a little on cruise wouldn't osta help in a deficit ?
 

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If I wanted to cut a little on cruise wouldn't osta help in a deficit ?
cant answer that because I've never used osta - plus it doesn't fit with the way I do things. that said - in theory, yes, it would probably work ... nothing against any one else's practices, of course--but I don't subscribe to "mixing" goals on a cruise, or even a blast, for that matter. blasting is either bulking or cutting, not both -- and a cruise is for one reason only, and that's to allow my body to return as close to baseline (chemically speaking) to allow myostatin to dissipate. setting me up for my next blast. otherwise you do nothing but fight the laws of diminishing returns. during this timeframe (cruise), my only goal is to maintain what I achieved from the previous blast. that's it.
 

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If I wanted to cut a little on cruise wouldn't osta help in a deficit ?
follow up...lol...I don't use research chems. there is a reason they are research chems - and not true pharma products. personally - I stick with the real deals.

if hell bent on running something during cruise to aid you in a deficit - throw some low dose var in there.
 
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follow up...lol...I don't use research chems. there is a reason they are research chems - and not true pharma products. personally - I stick with the real deals.

if hell bent on running something during cruise to aid you in a deficit - throw some low dose var in there.
I would consider it. Thanks
 
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follow up...lol...I don't use research chems. there is a reason they are research chems - and not true pharma products. personally - I stick with the real deals.

if hell bent on running something during cruise to aid you in a deficit - throw some low dose var in there.
Do you run peptides?
 

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What about the shelf life of caber? Im currently running tren/test and taking caber, experation date says it expired back in april 2016 but ut seems to be doing the job...


Btw caber i have to take it before bed it makes me feel like **** so i sleep thru the pain lol
 
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I gave my driving partner my caber because it was liquid and 5 months old.
.5mg had him late for the gym because he was locked in his room with a hooker.
So much for the not stable in liquid.
 
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I gave my driving partner my caber because it was liquid and 5 months old.
.5mg had him late for the gym because he was locked in his room with a hooker.
So much for the not stable in liquid.
I bet it is often faked with Prami and viagra or cialis.

You get the lowered prolactin and boners so you think it's real but you paid 5x extra.
 

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