Next cycle

[fro60ol]

Just stating to plan my next go. And not really sure what I wana do

This will be the third run

Last one was
4 weeks rad
8 weeks osta
All with trest as a base

Not sure what I wana do next any ideas


Looking for a cut/recomp

Any input would be great

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Dermatrest? Howd you like it?

 

[fro60ol]

Dermatrest? Howd you like it?

Yes and Loved it!! Really wish I bought more of it

 

[fro60ol]

Dermatrest? Howd you like it?

Any suggestions?

 

[InItForGainz]

Just stating to plan my next go. And not really sure what I wana do

This will be the third run

Last one was
4 weeks rad
8 weeks osta
All with trest as a base

Not sure what I wana do next any ideas


Looking for a cut/recomp

Any input would be great

Could do
LGD with Osta and with Epi-Andro as the Test/DHT base?
LGD for muscle gains
Osta to keep it lean
Epi-Andro for aggression, Extra fat loss, libido and staving off lethargy

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Any suggestions?

Im a pretty run-of-the-mill guy

>Andro/dhea stack
>SARMs
>Dermatrest
>Pin

...or some combination thereof

 

[saywutrly]

If we are to make any specific recommendations, we will need to know your stats. We also need to know what direction you'd like to go; do you want to stick with designers and PHs or are you coming to the dark side?

 

[fro60ol]

6'2 320 Played football for a long time. So I am built like a lineman Would like to hold off on the dark side for now. So just ph/designers

 

[Volvo140G]

320?

 

[fro60ol]

Pounds Most don't believe me when I say that. 260/270. Is what they say

 

[fro60ol]

I would not mind doing dermatrest again with something. Would have to look around for it tho

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I would not mind doing dermatrest again with something. Would have to look around for it tho

Ive stayed clear of methyls, so my suggestions are somewhat narrow...

Dermatrest @ 100mg/d, 50mg am/pm
LGD @10-15mg/d, dependant on product cap content
Epiandro @750mg+/d
11kt td

Covers lots of bases.

 

[fro60ol]

Ive stayed clear of methyls, so my suggestions are somewhat narrow...

Dermatrest @ 100mg/d, 50mg am/pm
LGD @10-15mg/d, dependant on product cap content
Epiandro @750mg+/d
11kt td

Covers lots of bases.

Was thinking epiandro will have to look into it some more


Also. Pct would be colmid. And either super pct or the new kings blood by Olympus labs

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Was thinking epiandro will have to look into it some more


Also. Pct would be colmid. And either super pct or the new kings blood by Olympus labs

Epiandro can cover "gaps" left by the other compounds (DHT specifically), so in that respect it can act as a piece of the complete cycle puzzle.

If you ran something like the 4 compounds I suggested, Id go with KB if you can.

 

[fro60ol]

I see what you are saying

 

[fro60ol]

I think I have lgd still I have to see if it's enough. And look for a place still selling dermatrest. The rest I can pick up in the sales this week from Olympus labs

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Checked nutriverse?

And I think the OL sales fini today.

 

[fro60ol]

Checked nutriverse?

And I think the OL sales fini today.

Tomorrow

 

[saywutrly]

Agreed here on the epiandro adding to any cycle. It even added a nice component to my injectable cycle. I found a couple part empty bottles of AG stanoTD and decided to just run them out as its one thing less to pack and move at the end of the month.

 

[fro60ol]

Ive stayed clear of methyls, so my suggestions are somewhat narrow...

Dermatrest @ 100mg/d, 50mg am/pm
LGD @10-15mg/d, dependant on product cap content
Epiandro @750mg+/d
11kt td

Covers lots of bases.

Haven't really found anyone with lgd at a good price. Would osta work instead. I have some left.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Haven't really found anyone with lgd at a good price. Would osta work instead. I have some left.

For me, I got nowhere near the anabolic response to ostarine as I did LGD. How was it for you last time? Id may be tempted to just use 1andro instead.

 

[fro60ol]

Looks like dermatrest is coming back at the end of November. Least that's what it's saying on nutrivuse wen site

 

[fro60ol]

elt great on it... now if I went 1andro it would be :

1andro
Trest
11kt
Epi

How does that look?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

elt great on it... now if I went 1andro it would be :

1andro
Trest
11kt
Epi

How does that look?

If you can afford all those I think itd be fawkin killer. Very little overlap and the compounds should compliment each other nicely.

 

[fro60ol]

If you can afford all those I think itd be fawkin killer. Very little overlap and the compounds should compliment each other nicely.

Yea. I have to wait for the trest in November but I can slowly pick things up.

Obviously I will be using cycle support. Most likely arimatcare pro Any other support needed?

 

[fro60ol]

If you can afford all those I think itd be fawkin killer. Very little overlap and the compounds should compliment each other nicely.

Yea. I have to wait for the trest in November but I can slowly pick things up.

Obviously I will be using cycle support. Most likely arimatcare pro Any other support needed?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Yea. I have to wait for the trest in November but I can slowly pick things up.

Obviously I will be using cycle support. Most likely arimatcare pro Any other support needed?

Id get plenty of java lava, youre gonna be doing lots of rubbing

My normal mantra man: keep cardio up, eat lots of leafy greens, lots of good fats (salmon, avacado, ex virg olive oil, etc), garlic, celery, plenty water.

You already have a good idea what to expect from the trestelone. Epiandro experiment with dose timing, if inclined.

Did you use an AI last trest run?

 

[fro60ol]

Didn't need to use an AI. I have it still tho

Sounds good I am excited to start have to get everything tho hahah

 

[fro60ol]

Id get plenty of java lava, youre gonna be doing lots of rubbing

My normal mantra man: keep cardio up, eat lots of leafy greens, lots of good fats (salmon, avacado, ex virg olive oil, etc), garlic, celery, plenty water.

You already have a good idea what to expect from the trestelone. Epiandro experiment with dose timing, if inclined.

Did you use an AI last trest run?

What would you say 8 weeks in length?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

What would you say 8 weeks in length?

Yip I reckon dude, especially if you go all in off the bat with no ramping (which I dont see a need to in your case).

 

[fro60ol]

Yip I reckon dude, especially if you go all in off the bat with no ramping (which I dont see a need to in your case).

Yea I was not planing on it Only thing I would do would be start the support a week or 2 earlier

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Yea I was not planing on it Only thing I would do would be start the support a week or 2 earlier

What are you thinking of dosing everything?

 

[fro60ol]

What are you thinking of dosing everything?

1andro. 330mg/day
Trest 100mg/day. (50 am 50 pm)
Epi 750-1000mg/day
Super-11 250mg/day



That's the outline right now. Will do some digging on what doses people have run and what's working

 

[NewAgeMayan]

1andro. 330mg/day
Trest 100mg/day. (50 am 50 pm)
Epi 750-1000mg/day
Super-11 250mg/day



That's the outline right now. Will do some digging on what doses people have run and what's working

Yeah, do. You actually may not need to go above 500mg with the epiandro, nor above 125mg 11kt. Those two will be the most "flexible" I reckon. The trest and 1andro will obviously be the heavy hitters.

 

[fro60ol]

Yeah, do. You actually may not need to go above 500mg with the epiandro, nor above 125mg 11kt. Those two will be the most "flexible" I reckon. The trest and 1andro will obviously be the heavy hitters.

Will also have to check dosing times for all but mostly the 2 transdermal see how to apply them

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Will also have to check dosing times for all but mostly the 2 transdermal see how to apply them

If you want any suggestions lmk, Ive run dtrest/super11 together myself and can gladly offer help based on what I did (Hastur did the same combo too).

 

[fro60ol]

If you want any suggestions lmk, Ive run dtrest/super11 together myself and can gladly offer help based on what I did (Hastur did the same combo too).

Yea man I would love to hear your opinion on how to use them effectively Hastur also

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Yea man I would love to hear your opinion on how to use them effectively Hastur also

I kept it pretty simple, and from memory hastur had adopted a similiar tactic.

Transference risks aside, best places to apply td's are neck, traps, upper pecs, shoulders. Id simply apply dtrest to one side of my body and 11kt to the other. I found this easier than reserving, say, traps for dtrest and pecs for 11kt. The effects for each compound are not dependant on applying to any target area of course, so lateral application is irrelevant in that respect.

 

[fro60ol]

I kept it pretty simple, and from memory hastur had adopted a similiar tactic.

Transference risks aside, best places to apply td's are neck, traps, upper pecs, shoulders. Id simply apply dtrest to one side of my body and 11kt to the other. I found this easier than reserving, say, traps for dtrest and pecs for 11kt. The effects for each compound are not dependant on applying to any target area of course, so lateral application is irrelevant in that respect.

I was going to ask about that... for when I did trest last time I did morning the left trap/shoulder/chest. Then at night the same on the right side

 

[fro60ol]

Currently single right now so won't have to worry about transferring it to a woman

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I was going to ask about that... for when I did trest last time I did morning the left trap/shoulder/chest. Then at night the same on the right side

You could always rotate L-R am-pm with the two td's if you prefer a more symmetrical protocol.

 

[fro60ol]

You said it does not matter so I would probably just do one on the right side and the other on the left just to keep it simple

 

[NewAgeMayan]

You said it does not matter so I would probably just do one on the right side and the other on the left just to keep it simple

Yeah cool. We havent come across anything to suggest this strategy to be problematic.

 

[fro60ol]

Perfect. !

 

[fro60ol]

This new super-shreds from Olympus U.K. Might be interesting. Will have to see if it would be a better fit ( waiting on profile release)

 

[Cgkone]

Good for you for being a modern viking!!
That's right brother!
What's your max bench at that weight?.
Do you wanna get even bigger?

 

[fro60ol]

Good for you for being a modern viking!!
That's right brother!
What's your max bench at that weight?.
Do you wanna get even bigger?

I haven't done a one rep max in a long time but I hit chest yesterday and did:

Band warmup supersetted with cable flys 5 sets total

135x20
1535x20
225x25
225x20
225x15
225x10
For flat bench then went on with the rest of it

 

[7eman7]

Yes and Loved it!! Really wish I bought more of it

Dermatrest is awesome just had my first run with it. Night and day difference with energy/lethargy

 

[Cgkone]

I haven't done a one rep max in a long time but I hit chest yesterday and did:

Band warmup supersetted with cable flys 5 sets total

135x20
1535x20
225x25
225x20
225x15
225x10
For flat bench then went on with the rest of it

225x25 is sick!!
I always fail at 23.
I plan on 225x30 in a year.

 

[fro60ol]

225x25 is sick!!
I always fail at 23.
I plan on 225x30 in a year.

23 is still very good man!!!! Most I have done in one shot is 41