And the FDA researchers back in 2008 would disagree with you, as do I:
The research workers, Alvin Matsumoto and Brett Marck, administered rat implants which delivered steady levels of the steroid hormones, and also gave rats in a control group implants without active substances (placebo). Eight weeks after the operation, the researchers looked at the effects on the animals. Boldione raised the concentration of testosterone in the rats. Could the antibodies that the research workers used for the boldione analogue have been confused with testosterone? (See Diagram below) Dienolone raised the levels of estradiol in the animals. That is logical. Dienolone seems to convert fairly easily to estrogen.
From the results you would think that dienolone was a more powerful anabolic / androgen than boldione. However this was not the case. The above figures are in relation to the relative weights: the weight of the levator ani muscle and the total body weight of the rats. The rats that received dienolone had gained less weight than the other animals, but mainly because they were less willing to eat. Below you see the weight increases of the test animals. The rats who received dienolone had a larger increase in the weight of the prostate and levator ani muscle, which was not surprising. The fact that the rats who were administered dienolone had an enlargement of the testes, could not be explained. The research workers think that dienolone decreased the appetite because it converted into estradiol. In 1978, researchers discovered that androgens which convert to estradiol especially decrease ones appetite. Weight changes are shown in the diagram below.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/98883-dienolone-boldione-testing.html - read up on the rest of it here. Have you taken IM Dienolone Acetate?
Rest assured, I have. And it converts to estrogen, no doubt about it. Pro-Dienolone does not do this and Dienolone TD doesn't seem to either. You'll notice on PHF that users report it being somewhat "wet" and how it is a big surprise to us all (we initially assumed Dienolone did NOT convert to estradiol). As it turns out, the FDA knew all along that it was a wet compound.
1) So, Dienolone is stronger than Bold (we probably knew that already though - stuff is stronger than most steroids, IMO).
2) Reduces appetite via increase in estrogen but still showed skeletal muscular growth greater than Bold and placedbo.
3) Readily converts to estradiol (I can also confirm this).
4) Increases testicular weight (unexplained but I can vouch for this reality).
5) Shuts down the system hard, like all 19-Nors do.
6) You haven't had dienolone until you've had the IM acetate version. Saying that you experienced Dienolone thru it's TD formula or through the Dienedione PH version is like saying you've experienced "Tren" via the PH to Tren.
Not the same. Dienolone Acetate is among the strongest steroids I have ever seen.
