First pinning opinion/help

[MJW]

On cycle
Halo-100 by Olympus labs (halodrol): 50mg for 6 weeks
Test enanthate: 250mg twice a week
Cycle support: Ar1micare pro
AI: Exemestane 6.25mg ed

Post cycle
Starting 2 weeks after last pin
Nolva: 40, 40, 20, 20
Clomid: 50, 50, 25, 25
Exemestane: 6.25mg ed

Will be using 3cc syringe with 25g, 1 1/2" needle for pinning and 18g for drawing.

Questions
1. Do i need more tudca other than whats in the ar1micare?
2. Do i need to continue cycle support through pct
3. Should i start halo before i start pinning or at the same time?

Any pointers and advice would be much appreciated.

 

[rascal14]

1. No.
2. No, but you can if you want to. It's not necessary.
3. Either way. I would probably just start at the same time though.

Your Nolva dose is high, you'll only need 20/20/10/10, especially if you have Clomid too. Also, you don't need an AI in PCT.

 

[MJW]

1. No.
2. No, but you can if you want to. It's not necessary.
3. Either way. I would probably just start at the same time though.

Your Nolva dose is high, you'll only need 20/20/10/10, especially if you have Clomid too. Also, you don't need an AI in PCT.

Only reason I'm using ai during is because i think I may be prone to it considering growing up i had lumps through puberty. Even using andros made my nips pointier than normal.

 

[Driven2lift]

Only reason I'm using ai during is because i think I may be prone to it considering growing up i had lumps through puberty. Even using andros made my nips pointier than normal.

Sounds like you need preliminary bloodwork before jumping on orals + AAS

Instead of taking extra AI because of something you think you remember through puberty.


Also if you had gyno lumps, you would still have them

 

[Smont]

^^^ that^^^ and 50mg halo is really low

 

[rascal14]

^^^ that^^^ and 50mg halo is really low

This too, I didn't notice it in the first post. I'd do atleast 75-100 of Halo.

 

[ChocolateClen]

If you have gyno you'll know for sure, its not something you just think you have. There are obvious signs associated with it. If you don't know for sure if you have it or not then wait and get bloods.

Is on cycle support even really necessary for a cycle like this?

 

[MJW]

Sounds like you need preliminary bloodwork before jumping on orals + AAS

Instead of taking extra AI because of something you think you remember through puberty.


Also if you had gyno lumps, you would still have them

Well duhh. Ill be getting bloods done before I start.

 

[MJW]

If you have gyno you'll know for sure, its not something you just think you have. There are obvious signs associated with it. If you don't know for sure if you have it or not then wait and get bloods.

Is on cycle support even really necessary for a cycle like this?

Because of the halo, I'd say so. Better safe than sorry. Nothing wrong with keeping liver and blood pressure in check imo

 

[MJW]

Would hcg be necessary?

 

[MJW]

Can someone else chime in? I plan on injecting every Monday and Thursday. Is this okay? I see people do every 3 days but I think id do better on a weekly schedule.

 

[Burnfire]

Can someone else chime in? I plan on injecting every Monday and Thursday. Is this okay? I see people do every 3 days but I think id do better on a weekly schedule.

For Test E you would be fine with Monday and Friday. Pretty much every 3.5-4 days

 

[7eman7]

1. No.
2. No, but you can if you want to. It's not necessary.
3. Either way. I would probably just start at the same time though.

Your Nolva dose is high, you'll only need 20/20/10/10, especially if you have Clomid too. Also, you don't need an AI in PCT.

This. But I disagree about not needing an ai in pct. Aromasin starting week 3 of pct and continued for 2 weeks POST pct is a great way to prevent any estrogen rebound cause by the serms. Not to mention it's positive effects on igf levels.

 

[snowwolf]

This. But I disagree about not needing an ai in pct. Aromasin starting week 3 of pct and continued for 2 weeks POST pct is a great way to prevent any estrogen rebound cause by the serms. Not to mention it's positive effects on igf levels.

Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor so there won't be any rebound as a direct result of the aromasin technically but id still run it. Myself, personally, 2 weeks after my last pin ill drop my dose to every other day and keep running that throughout pct. Aromasin won't jack with your lipids or anything so its not bad to run it that extra few weeks, although blood work is always a must to know what is truely going on inside of your body.
Ive felt my pct was much more successful when I kept using the aromasin through pct.

 

[MJW]

Okay, here's my pre bloods. I have no clue what im looking for. Can anyone help me and tell me if everything looks gtg?

 

[Smont]

How old are you

 

[MJW]

How old are you

25 years

 

[Smont]

Everything looks good except your test lv. Is really low especially for your age. 366! I didn't see free test on there either

 

[MJW]

Everything looks good except your test lv. Is really low especially for your age. 366! I didn't see free test on there either

No clue where free test is. Just what i was given. And it is weird that it's 366. Maybe I didn't recover enough from the sup3r 1, 4 and epi cycle i did. It's been a little whilr since i did that cycle though. But yes it does seem low for my age. Is this something I should worry about?

 

[MJW]

Everything looks good except your test lv. Is really low especially for your age. 366! I didn't see free test on there either

This was also technically a women's hormone panel test. Idk if that would make a difference. I may show these results to my doctor and see what he thinks.

 

[Smont]

Thats the panel test u want. I would take it to your dr before starting the cycle. Hes probably going to say that its ok because your in the normal range. Thats really low tho, if it was me id definitely adress that issue first

 

[MJW]

Thats the panel test u want. I would take it to your dr before starting the cycle. Hes probably going to say that its ok because your in the normal range. Thats really low tho, if it was me id definitely adress that issue first

I already did my first pin lol. I'll talk to him and if i need to stop then so be it. The only other problem i see is that I'm not going to tell him im cycling because of insurance purposes.

 

[Smont]

Well if you go to him now he might want more blood work which will be wrong cus your on test now

 

[Hyde]

Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor so there won't be any rebound as a direct result of the aromasin technically but id still run it. Myself, personally, 2 weeks after my last pin ill drop my dose to every other day and keep running that throughout pct. Aromasin won't jack with your lipids or anything so its not bad to run it that extra few weeks, although blood work is always a must to know what is truely going on inside of your body.
Ive felt my pct was much more successful when I kept using the aromasin through pct.

Agree with all of this except it does jack with my lipids. Ai usage generally means worse lipids. High estro also promotes a poor lipid profile though and I hate gyno so I am pro-AI. But I had to mention this for OP.

 

[MJW]

Well if you go to him now he might want more blood work which will be wrong cus your on test now

True. I may just ask him what he thinks and if he asks for more bloods then I'll tell him I've been taking some fitness test boosters lol.

 

[bobi593]

No clue where free test is. Just what i was given. And it is weird that it's 366. Maybe I didn't recover enough from the sup3r 1, 4 and epi cycle i did. It's been a little whilr since i did that cycle though. But yes it does seem low for my age. Is this something I should worry about?

Test really low in your age I'm 37 soon last blood work 2015 I had 860 I wouldn't start new cycle no way!!!

 

[MJW]

Test really low in your age I'm 37 soon last blood work 2015 I had 860 I wouldn't start new cycle no way!!!

If my test is naturally low, why would this affect whether I should cycle or not?

 

[bobi593]

check your diet up your fats wait month or two and repeat blood work

 

[MJW]

check your diet up your fats wait month or two and repeat blood work

I have been on a caloric deficit. That's probably why. But like i said, i already started.

 

[bobi593]

check your diet up your fats wait month or two and repeat blood work btw you should be like porn star in this age

 

[Smont]

I do agree you should put off the cycle for now. 1 pin wont hurt. You could have a bigger issue on your hands post cycle

 

[bobi593]

I have been on a caloric deficit. That's probably why. But like i said, i already started.

Does not matter one shot means nothing it's marathon not sprint

 

[bobi593]

is your energy/mood especially sex drive the same like before cycle ?

 

[MJW]

Does not matter one shot means nothing it's marathon not sprint

This sucks. I've been wanting to start for a while now.

 

[MJW]

is your energy/mood especially sex drive the same like before cycle ?

I've been a little more tired. But then again I haven't been getting as much sleep. Plus there's been alot of new stressors in my life

 

[CATdiesel76]

How long you running the test? Run it at least 14 weeks. Inwould personally start the Clomid a couple of days after your last shot through the time the ester clears. It makes PCT much easier than guessing the day the water is completey clear.

I would also run the clomid longer. Probably 7 weeks after your last shot

 

[MJW]

Update, this was mid cycle..

 

[MJW]

And relaxed