Nolvadex Experiences

[InItForGainz]

Can't decide whether to run Clomid or Nolva for PCT, so thought I'd ask for some people's experiences of using it.
How did you feel during PCT whilst using Nolva as your SERM?
How well you recovered using Nolva as your PCT SERM?
How fast you recovered using Nolva as your PCT SERM?
Retention of gains after using Nolva as your PCT SERM?
EDIT-Benefits of Nolva over Clomid (if any)?

Any info or experiences would be really appreciated.
Cheers

 

[DTA]

The standard protocol is to use both. Don't cheap out on pct, it's the most important part of the cycle

 

[dave39]

You can run both if you want.
If you're just going to run one than just choose one and go with it. Some people have great success with clomid, some with nolva.
The questions your asking have many variables, not just the serm.

 

[InItForGainz]

The standard protocol is to use both. Don't cheap out on pct, it's the most important part of the cycle

I was planning on using both but the side effects of Clomid just sound like it's risks outweigh it's rewards when people seem to do fine just running one SERM.
My PCT SERM will be stacked with...
CEL Cycle Assist
OL Ar1macare Pro
SNS Reduce XT
Performax AlphaMax XT

 

[DTA]

I was planning on using both but the side effects of Clomid just sound like it's risks outweigh it's rewards when people seem to do fine just running one SERM.
My PCT SERM will be stacked with...
CEL Cycle Assist
OL Ar1macare Pro
SNS Reduce XT
Performax AlphaMax XT

Clen side effects vary from user to user. At 50/50/25/25 it won't be bad most likely

 

[InItForGainz]

Clen side effects vary from user to user. At 50/50/25/25 it won't be bad most likely

It's the blurry vision, emotional sides and acne that worry me the most tbh

 

[rascal14]

The only noticeable side effect I get from Clomid is migraines. The first two weeks at 50mg is just a constant headache that never goes away.

 

[InItForGainz]

The only noticeable side effect I get from Clomid is migraines. The first two weeks at 50mg is just a constant headache that never goes away.

Have you tried Nolva as well or just Clomid so far?

 

[rascal14]

Have you tried Nolva as well or just Clomid so far?

I used Nolva once by itself and then after that I always used Nolva and Clomid together.

 

[InItForGainz]

I used Nolva once by itself and then after that I always used Nolva and Clomid together.

How do you dose the two? Full dose of both?

 

[rascal14]

How do you dose the two? Full dose of both?

Yes, I always do Nolva 20/20/10/10 and Clomid 50/50/25/25. I use Pharma tabs now as well. My first cycle with Nolva itself was liquid from a research company and seemed to be okay.

 

[InItForGainz]

Yes, I always do Nolva 20/20/10/10 and Clomid 50/50/25/25. I use Pharma tabs now as well. My first cycle with Nolva itself was liquid from a research company and seemed to be okay.

Do you still get the headaches whilst running them both? What other sides do you experience using the two together?

 

[rascal14]

Do you still get the headaches whilst running them both? What other sides do you experience using the two together?

I didn't get the headaches with Nolva by itself, but I've always gotten it when I used Nolva and Clomid.

Headaches are the only real side effect I've ever gotten.

 

[The Express 42]

Ive only used Nolva at 20/20/10/10 and it went well for me. I feel like it took me the whole four weeks to start getting back to normal but it worked. Honestly no side effects, I am going to try Clomid for my next run

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

The only time i've gotten vision sides with clomid is when going over 50mg everyday or stacking it with a pde-5 inhibitor like tadalafil, other than that nothing- i've run both clomid and nolva solo and torem solo- clomid with torem is my favorite combo after switching it up for many pcts.

 

[InItForGainz]

The only time i've gotten vision sides with clomid is when going over 50mg everyday or stacking it with a pde-5 inhibitor like tadalafil, other than that nothing- i've run both clomid and nolva solo and torem solo- clomid with torem is my favorite combo after switching it up for many pcts.

How was your PCT and recovery with the solo Nolva?

 

[user567]

I ran Nolva solo and had no sides. My T went from 350 to 1300 during the 4 week period i was on it. I dont get running both honestly. Not needed in my opinion

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

How was your PCT and recovery with the solo Nolva?

It was good however i wouldn't do the standard 20/20/10/10 for a large cycle.

 

[InItForGainz]

It was good however i wouldn't do the standard 20/20/10/10 for a large cycle.

What dose would you use?
I'm considering Nolva for a light Andro Cycle.

 

[xo0ox]

It all depends on the cycle.
On a light cycle nolva 20/20/10/10 would most likely suffice.
But why cheap out and risk not restarting you HTPA to it's fullest.

If you are afraid of the sides with clomid do 25/25/12,5/12,5 alonside nolva 20/20/10/10 for a light cycle and see how you react.
If it's good then next time do 50mg clomid and see if it play well with you.
Most sides came from people frontloading clomid with 150-300mg fort the first day/days and the ran it as high as 100-150mg day fort the first 2 weeks. Today we know better though and 25-50mg is more than enough to stimulate LH release. Stack it witch Nolva and you have a 2 punch KO aswell as better protection from rebound estrogen from the cycle and clomid.

 

[InItForGainz]

It all depends on the cycle.
On a light cycle nolva 20/20/10/10 would most likely suffice.
But why cheap out and risk not restarting you HTPA to it's fullest.

If you are afraid of the sides with clomid do 25/25/12,5/12,5 alonside nolva 20/20/10/10 for a light cycle and see how you react.
If it's good then next time do 50mg clomid and see if it play well with you.
Most sides came from people frontloading clomid with 150-300mg fort the first day/days and the ran it as high as 100-150mg day fort the first 2 weeks. Today we know better though and 25-50mg is more than enough to stimulate LH release. Stack it witch Nolva and you have a 2 punch KO aswell as better protection from rebound estrogen from the cycle and clomid.

The money isn't the reason I'm thinking of solo Nolva, PCT is the most important part of the cycle so I don't mind spending a little more on the good stuff. The only reason I'd rather not run both is because of the blurry vision and acne sides and the possible increase in liver enzymes.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

The money isn't the reason I'm thinking of solo Nolva, PCT is the most important part of the cycle so I don't mind spending a little more on the good stuff. The only reason I'd rather not run both is because of the blurry vision and acne sides and the possible increase in liver enzymes.

Clomid isn't the one that increases liver enzymes that is infact nolvadex, Nolvadex is considered hepatotoxic, i carry my cycle support into pct when using nolvadex just for good measure, not a necessity. Blurry vision only occurs over 50mg imo or if you stack it with viagra or cialis, other than that you're gold. Acne will happen no matter what... your test will be skyrocketing from the SERM... higher test generally correlates to oily skin and more acne. It's a chain of events and hell i'd love oily skin in pct, it's a sign to me that im recovering.

 

[xo0ox]

If you run into issues with clomid at 50mg and have nolva in the back at 20mg you can drop the dosage to 25 and still be good.
Remember though that the halflife is about 6 days so if you drop the dose due to sides be paitent as it will take a little time before bloodlevels are lowered.
May panic and drop the compund right of the bat but the sides will still be haning with them for a while and a drop in dosage may have been enough and they would still be able to reap the benefits.

 

[InItForGainz]

Clomid isn't the one that increases liver enzymes that is infact nolvadex, Nolvadex is considered hepatotoxic, i carry my cycle support into pct when using nolvadex just for good measure, not a necessity. Blurry vision only occurs over 50mg imo or if you stack it with viagra or cialis, other than that you're gold. Acne will happen no matter what... your test will be skyrocketing from the SERM... higher test generally correlates to oily skin and more acne. It's a chain of events and hell i'd love oily skin in pct, it's a sign to me that im recovering.

Riiight, O.k that actually does make more sense. So what I'm thinking is
Clomid
50/25/25/25/12.5
Nolva
20/20/10/10/10
Ar1macare Pro
8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8
Cycle Assist
4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4
AlphaMax XT
4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4
Reduce XT
3/3/3/3

My reasoning behind it being that if I use both I shouldn't have to dose either of them as high, and still get the same effect. Am I right in that kind of thinking? Considering I'll only be using a low dose of Nolva, but respecting it's hepatoxicity, would Ar1macare and Cycle Assist suffice or should I swap one for straight up Tudca instead?

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Riiight, O.k that actually does make more sense. So what I'm thinking is
Clomid
50/25/25/25/12.5
Nolva
20/20/10/10/10
Ar1macare Pro
8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8
Cycle Assist
4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4
AlphaMax XT
4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4
Reduce XT
3/3/3/3

My reasoning behind it being that if I use both I shouldn't have to dose either of them as high, and still get the same effect. Am I right in that kind of thinking? Considering I'll only be using a low dose of Nolva, but respecting it's hepatoxicity, would Ar1macare and Cycle Assist suffice or should I swap one for straight up Tudca instead?

You're just like me you go all out on PCT AND ITS A GOOD THING. That pct is perfect, id actually keep clomid 25mg the whole way all 5 weeks and nolva 20mg all 5 weeks. The rest is perfect.

 

[InItForGainz]

You're just like me you go all out on PCT AND ITS A GOOD THING. That pct is perfect, id actually keep clomid 25mg the whole way all 5 weeks and nolva 20mg all 5 weeks. The rest is perfect.

PCT is the most important part of a cycle and the part where I'm willing to over-do it. The Nolva is coming in packs of 30 20mgs so I'll probably keep the Nolva at 20/20/10/10/10 (24.5 caps in total) instead of having to buy a whole other box and only use a few tabs out of it.

 

[xo0ox]

PCT is the most important part of a cycle and the part where I'm willing to over-do it. The Nolva is coming in packs of 30 20mgs so I'll probably keep the Nolva at 20/20/10/10/10 (24.5 caps in total) instead of having to buy a whole other box and only use a few tabs out of it.

Then you can do 20/20/20/10/10 for the nolva (28 tabs).

 

[7eman7]

Although nolvadex seems to be stronger than clomid on paper, I always prefer clomid. Recovery goes smooth and no sides at 50mg. Guys who get emotional sides from clomid are running it at 100mg+ which is completely uneccesarry...