I know you said you have no interest in arguing, but overall, nolva is better than clomid for pct. Based on your post regarding serms, your knowledge is a little rusty. Nolva also increase LH, FSH and will also prevent post ccycle gyno, which clomid will not do. An Aromatase inhibitor should be used with your serm to synergistically increase your test levels. Sure, Clomid may increase test quicker and a little bit more....but nothing drastic compared to nolva. And again, having something to protect against gyno post or on cycle plus not desensitizing LHRH as much makes nolva overall better for PCT. One thing you said is true: drugs dont act the same in every individual. I apologize in advance for coming across as an A**hole. Just trying to spread correct info
My reference was to side effects. Clomid is a fertility drug. Nolva is an estrogen-induced breast cancer treatment drug.
I want to point out that when someone runs a non-aromatising steroid like halo and then stops taking halo, there is no estrogen rebound or gyno concerns initially and will likely not be any, assuming that the users did not have pre-existing gyno. Solo hdrol will bottom out test production. And guess what? When he stops hdrol, his test will still be bottomed out. Neither Clomid or Nolva can give you supraphysiological test levels, so estrogen will be easily managed by just keeping dosing schemes predictable and reasonable in PCT.
Where does estrogen come from? Can someone develop gyno with low estrogen levels? May be some good questions for the OP to think about.
It's also interesting that you suggest an AI. I agree completely. I also think that an AI and Nolva together is overkill on estrogen and the recovery would then be slower, as IGF levels would be very low in PCT. A proper PCT for fast recovery with minimal loss of gains would entail IGF, SERM of choice, an AI (if using Clomid) and HCG early on to get test production back online quickly.
Anyways, I never said Nolva doesn't work at boosting Test levels. It just doesn't do it as well as Clomid. On the one study that I laid eyes on, I recall the difference being substantial in that regard. The use of an AI further supports using Clomid as they compliment each other without overly suppressing estrogen. Either way, you would do well not to be die hard toward certain drugs, protocols and methods. Having ultimatums when giving advise to someone with a body that is likely quite different than yours is a recipe for eventual humility. I used to be that way when I was younger but knowledge and experience has continually humbled me to the point that I no longer assume there is only one way to do these things or that one way is "the best". This is a moving target for ALL of us.
