Best oral to stack with Dymethazine to give best chance of maintaining libido?

[swirvin1]

Hello,

I am simply searching for some experienced users opinions on which oral compound I could stack with Dymethazine to give me the best chance of maintaining a decent libido. I have proper on-cycle support, diet, and PCT already planned out. Any input is appreciated. Obviously, I want to continue with Dymethazine but the libido loss is pretty intense.

Thanks guys.

 

[jakecake]

Cialis lol

 

[jakecake]

Epi gave me good libido until the end

 

[swirvin1]

Did you run the EPI along with Dymethazine? For example, if I was to run EPI, or DMZ, by themselves, is there a single compound I could stack either with to at least aid in libido issues. I am not looking for an Rx such as Cialis.

Thanks.

 

[jakecake]

Nah I ran it with msten for 8 weeks 20 mgs msten 70 epi I go high in epi cause I like to bring things to the extreme lol

 

[jakecake]

Ripped to the bone tho and my whole body looked like a hard dick lmfao

 

[jakecake]

Epi made me a horny freak

 

[Hawkwarrior]

Ripped to the bone tho and my whole body looked like a hard dick lmfao

What brand epiandro did you run?
Epiandro is a lot better base that 4 and to which seems pretty useless,right?

As far as bases go, I've read people report that Dermicrine sucked and did nothing but bloat

4Andro reviews haven't been much better but epiandro has a lot of good things said about it but I'm sure there are some people out there who get bad results from it because everybody reacts differently to compounds

I was surprised when I read that 50% of people that do DMZ get no results from it and it doesn't affect their liver values ...I read that here

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

What brand epiandro did you run?
Epiandro is a lot better base that 4 and to which seems pretty useless,right?

As far as bases go, I've read people report that Dermicrine sucked and did nothing but bloat

4Andro reviews haven't been much better but epiandro has a lot of good things said about it but I'm sure there are some people out there who get bad results from it because everybody reacts differently to compounds

I was surprised when I read that 50% of people that do DMZ get no results from it and it doesn't affect their liver values ...I read that here

He's talking about epistane. If you knew dosing schemes you'd know it was epistane when he said "70mg" was him taking it to the extreme. Epi-andro is ran at 1000mg. 4-andro is not worthless. Neither is dermacrine many people here praise dermacrine so idk what you were reading. It doesn't work as well for younger males if thats what you mean. I run Epi-andro by OL UK only pro's company i trust. If you can find their epistane it's savage sh1t

 

[jakecake]

Who told you dmz doesn't effect your liver and that it doesn't work ??? And yes I ran rpn havoc

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Who told you dmz doesn't effect your liver and that it doesn't work ??? And yes I ran rpn havoc

Yeah I have no idea where he read these things but most likely not here. RPN Havoc is that good sh1t, you ran 3 bottles id assume since it was high dosage and longer run??

 

[Hawkwarrior]

I did read here that DMZ doesn't do anything for a lot of people

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

I did read here that DMZ doesn't do anything for a lot of people

Sure.. If it's bunk. Lol.

 

[Hawkwarrior]

I can't copy and paste right now but I did read here by a veteran poster that dmz has been known to have nonresponders
.
Exact term was non responder

 

[goodvibes]

Sure.. If it's bunk. Lol.

Lol so true.

 

[Hawkwarrior]

I'm gonna have to make a thread calling out the guy who said it!

 

[jakecake]

Yeah I have no idea where he read these things but most likely not here. RPN Havoc is that good sh1t, you ran 3 bottles id assume since it was high dosage and longer run??

Yes it was an amazing run bro

 

[swirvin1]

Hi All,

I appreciate the input. However, let me clarify. I am referring to DMZ as in D-Zine (Dymethazine) and Epistane (not EpiAndro). I have used both in the past and both have produced insane results for me. Basically all I am looking for is another compound to run with D-Zine (which in my opinion is wonderful for a recomp) so that my libido can remain at least average.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Hi All,

I appreciate the input. However, let me clarify. I am referring to DMZ as in D-Zine (Dymethazine) and Epistane (not EpiAndro). I have used both in the past and both have produced insane results for me. Basically all I am looking for is another compound to run with D-Zine (which in my opinion is wonderful for a recomp) so that my libido can remain at least average.

EPi-andro, DMZ, and 4-andro so you'd have 2 compounds to help your libido and help gains.

 

[swirvin1]

Thanks brother, I appreciate it. Enjoy your day.

 

[Bunshichi]

If you are not wortied about estro get yourself some trest. Oral you have to dose it several times a day cause the half life is short but trest is the way to go for libido.

 

[jakecake]

I herd trust is very dangerous endocrine wise supposedly shut you down so fast infertility is a factor ??

 

[TexasLifter89]

I herd trust is very dangerous endocrine wise supposedly shut you down so fast infertility is a factor ??

Yes, my understanding is that it's being studied as a male contraceptive.

 

[jakecake]

Yes, my understanding is that it's being studied as a male contraceptive.

Damn what would you say the Oct protocall would be hcg nolva aromasin maybe some cialis

 

[Bunshichi]

Yes. Thats why it is ideal. Its a compound with effects so near to trest that it can be used to replace Test.
Of course not all effects of testosterone get carried out thats why you can't get kids when on trest and the testosterone is already out of your body.
Of course the shutdown is very fast and strong with such a compound so the action of a contraceptive works fast.

Infertility is usually only temporarily but as with all hormones that shut you down (like DMZ for example) the rist is always given.

 

[jakecake]

True true bunshichi

 

[brofessorx]

The person claiming dzine didn't work was called out.
He took a post from some website out of context.

You can find the correct information in my post history somewhere.

But in a nutshell, dzine is basically methylated dht, the primary male androgen. If you have androgen receptors, dzine will bind to them and interact.

If it doesn't, it's either bunk, underdosed, or your diet and training suck. Or a combo of the last two.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Dermacrine did nothing for me, I would maybe consider epiandrosterone or 4 andro if you want to go the oral route

 

[Placebo1985]

Definitely trest although it's a little wet but Epi and an ai will take care of that. No need to worry about the infertility thing. Once you pct you will be back to normal. ****, my buddy got a chick pregnant WHILE running Trest.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Definitely trest although it's a little wet but Epi and an ai will take care of that. No need to worry about the infertility thing. Once you pct you will be back to normal. ****, my buddy got a chick pregnant WHILE running Trest.

Dymethazine+Trestolone+Epistane? Seems a bit harsh on the liver hahaha...I can see dymethazine+trestolone pairing nicely, but that would be a cycle for an advanced user and would require pharma ancillaries such as arimidex

 

[Bunshichi]

Can't see how Epistane would help against lethargy. It actually causes really bad lethargy for me and many others.

Epiandro on the orher hand is also dry but good for libido and wellbeing

 

[jakecake]

Can't see how Epistane would help against lethargy. It actually causes really bad lethargy for me and many others.

Epiandro on the orher hand is also dry but good for libido and wellbeing

I wouldn't say epistane for lethargy I said for libido brotha man

 

[Bunshichi]

K. Well everything I took so far ups my libido at least the first 6 weeks. Doubt DMZ would differ.
But also in the libido department epiandro should be better suited.

Then again with trest as the base epistane should not make problems even besides dmz.

 

[jakecake]

K. Well everything I took so far ups my libido at least the first 6 weeks. Doubt DMZ would differ.
But also in the libido department epiandro should be better suited.

Then again with trest as the base epistane should not make problems even besides dmz.

Agreed

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

I find that you could recover from Tr3st pretty easily if you use BOTH clomid and nolva.

EDIT:According to others, not me personally as i haven't tried it.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Epistane actually decreased my sex drive about 3 weeks into the cycle fyi

 

[Gutterpump]

Epi made me a horny freak

Try it with trest next time

 

[Gutterpump]

Epistane actually decreased my sex drive about 3 weeks into the cycle fyi

It will do this, once your estrogen is crushed. But epi + test = win. Or epi + dermacrine.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

It will do this, once your estrogen is crushed. But epi + test = win. Or epi + dermacrine.

I figured it was from low estrogen...I plan on running a 12 week test e cycle kickstarted with epistane in the future

 

[jakecake]

Try it with trest next time

I'm scared of trest no joke I've herd some stories I wanna have a kid within the next two years prob so IDK bout it

 

[jakecake]

I should do it now if any time would be best it'd be now so if my dimethandrostenol ends up giving me probs I'll scoop some an add 75 thought the day I'm guessing

 

[Gutterpump]

I'm scared of trest no joke I've herd some stories I wanna have a kid within the next two years prob so IDK bout it

I hear ya. I'm on TRT for life and no kids for me!

TBH, I felt like superdrol shut me down harder than even IM trest did though.

 

[jakecake]

I hear ya. I'm on TRT for life and no kids for me!

TBH, I felt like superdrol shut me down harder than even IM trest did though.

Wow that's nutz... literally Lmfao !!! But dang so did you get shutdown in cycle or after for both I herd superdrol your shut down twords the end and with treat your shut down consistently the whole cycle ??

 

[jakecake]

Like I herd trest shut down is almost immediate that's why I'm so nervous about it

 

[Gutterpump]

Well when I used superdrol, I was pulsing it for about 4-5 weeks eod. I just remember being shutdown really fast, and having almost 0 semen volume. Nothing has ever done that to me before.

When I used trest ace, I was already on TRT for years, so I couldn't gauge shutdown easily, but I at least still had good volume lol

 

[jakecake]

Well when I used superdrol, I was pulsing it for about 4-5 weeks eod. I just remember being shutdown really fast, and having almost 0 semen volume. Nothing has ever done that to me before.

When I used trest ace, I was already on TRT for years, so I couldn't gauge shutdown easily, but I at least still had good volume lol

Damn good info bro Yea never did the sd Wich I had back when it was around but I was like 13 lmfao

 

[jakecake]

Damn good info bro Yea never did the sd Wich I had back when it was around but I was like 13 lmfao

Wish I had not wich I had zikes thatd be messed up

 

[Smont]

Damn what would you say the Oct protocall would be hcg nolva aromasin maybe some cialis

Won't need cialis on trest.

 

[Smont]

The combination of trest and epi andro is the ultimate needle free test base. Trest ace im is fantastic too

 

[jakecake]

Won't need cialis on trest.

No no I ****ed up the typing its not Oct I meant pct I need bigger font on this piece of **** phone lol