Anybody use this for BP cycle support? I just picked some up; trying to get my Systolic back in 130s (now in 140s). What dose do you use?
I'm not on right now; been off about a week. I have 300mg caps of 2.2% vitexin extract.If you are on Anabolics right now and your bp is too high you should not add in hawthorne berry right now as it can increase blood pressure in the first time of administration. Thats why one should frontload it one to two weeks before cycle.
I would use about 2-3g daily.
Yeah, but I have everything else bought separately in bulk.A cycle support such as CEL CYCLE ASSIST will assist with blood pressure issues.
First one to two weeks the blood pressure may rise, but after that (or better said somewhere in this time) the blood pressure lowering effects will take place.How long does it take about to start working so I can know to increase the dose or not?
Gotcha. Just trying to help out bro. Good luck!Yeah, but I have everything else bought separately in bulk.
My mom takes hawthorne to lower her blood pressure. She doesn't lift heavy, but she does work out at a small local gym. I am also fairly sure she isn't running any cycle.Anybody use this for BP cycle support? I just picked some up; trying to get my Systolic back in 130s (now in 140s). What dose do you use?
I believe that's a 50:1 extract so 2 caps daily will get you the dose you need.I'm not on right now; been off about a week. I have 300mg caps of 2.2% vitexin extract.
Well, glad to hear it works for her nevertheless!My mom takes hawthorne to lower her blood pressure. She doesn't lift heavy, but she does work out at a small local gym. I am also fairly sure she isn't running any cycle.
Want me ask what dose she's taking?
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Cool beans. I'll start there. Thanks.I believe that's a 50:1 extract so 2 caps daily will get you the dose you need.
Yeah she started taking it alongside her medication and it dropped her pressure so low she couldn't get out of bed. So when quit her medication and used hawthorne under her doc's supervision.Well, glad to hear it works for her nevertheless!
Holy smokes. That's what I need. I'm tired of having "prehypertension" even on bisoprolol. I want to run my next cycle without having to worry my BP will spike again (I'll still check it of course).Yeah she started taking it alongside her medication and it dropped her pressure so low she couldn't get out of bed. So when quit her medication and used hawthorne under her doc's supervision.
Raw garlic 1 piece every 6 hrs . Add it in to what your doing also . Look into beets.Holy smokes. That's what I need. I'm tired of having "prehypertension" even on bisoprolol. I want to run my next cycle without having to worry my BP will spike again (I'll still check it of course).
Raw garlic 1 piece every 6 hrs . Add it in to what your doing also . Look into beets.
Beet juice and raw garlic? Sounds disgusting but I'll try almost anything to get my BP down now. Much appreciated.
Been juice contains nitrates, they make an extract of that as well. You could always try potassium nitrate, tastes a little better than beetsBeet juice and raw garlic? Sounds disgusting but I'll try almost anything to get my BP down now. Much appreciated.
I see vitamin shoppe has purus labs noxygen, which contains glycerol and betaine nitrate. Probably the way to go eh?Been juice contains nitrates, they make an extract of that as well. You could always try potassium nitrate, tastes a little better than beets
No , yes , not simultaneously.Does it matter what kind of beet juice or when I drink it? Where do you even get it, any grocery store?
Might work . Ive found naturally occurring nitrates to help me a little better . Some of those supps are garbage or make things worse.I see vitamin shoppe has purus labs noxygen, which contains glycerol and betaine nitrate. Probably the way to go eh?
There's no difference between using that everyday vs beet root juice/extract everyday right?
Also, this can be combined with Agmatine and other normal pre workout ingredients without any issue right?
Gotcha. But you haven't found any interactions with Agmatine, citrulline or arginine etc and nitrates?Might work . Ive found naturally occurring nitrates to help me a little better . Some of those supps are garbage or make things worse.
I never used them in conjunction.Gotcha. But you haven't found any interactions with Agmatine, citrulline or arginine etc and nitrates?
No worries there. Nitrates and pde5's are not to be mixed, your combos are gtg.Gotcha. But you haven't found any interactions with Agmatine, citrulline or arginine etc and nitrates?
Once a day worked for me but split dosing would probably be the best way to keep bp stable.Last question, when using nitrates or beet root for blood pressure, does it matter if it's dosed once or twice a day or more?
My thoughts as well.The levels are more stabile with dosing more often. However with beet root there was a study showing more endurance with dosing one a day what would suggest that dosing once per day is enough, also for effects on bp.
Once a day worked for me but split dosing would probably be the best way to keep bp stable.
Thanks guys. I ended up getting both the purus labs noxygen product and beetroot powder by eclectic labs. I'll use the beetroot powder in the morning and the noxygen 12 hours later pre workout.The levels are more stabile with dosing more often. However with beet root there was a study showing more endurance with dosing one a day what would suggest that dosing once per day is enough, also for effects on bp.
I don't think it will increase blood volume to that extent. I've used plenty of products with large doses of hydromax and had no bp issues with them.Any chance the glycerol in some of these nitrate products can increase blood pressure? If it increases blood volume and everything else is constant, wouldn't that put more pressure on the pipe that contains it?
Gotcha. Thanks.I don't think it will increase blood volume to that extent. I've used plenty of products with large doses of hydromax and had no bp issues with them.
Does the garlic really have to be raw? Minced won't work?Raw garlic 1 piece every 6 hrs . Add it in to what your doing also . Look into beets.
Tbh idk . I eat quite a bit of raw garlic . It also improves other things as well.Does the garlic really have to be raw? Minced won't work?
Odorless garlic extract is gtgDoes the garlic really have to be raw? Minced won't work?
Oh. Thats new to me. Might have to take Hawthorne berry myself in that case.Nitrates, olive leaf extract, celery see extract, pomegranate extract. Hawthorne is more for supporting the electrical conductivity of the heart and its rhythm. The ones above have research behind them that would be more specific to your concerns.
"improves other thongs"Tbh idk . I eat quite a bit of raw garlic . It also improves other thongs as well.
I eat garlic too, for lowering BP."improves other thongs"
Exaggerated claim! We need to see the thong pictures for verification. hairygrandpa and smith_69 can judge the thong improvements.
Thanks for that nausea this morning!I eat garlic too, for lowering BP.
Flossing my teeth with a used thong removes accumulated thong-crumbles from the thong, while overpowering my garlic breath.
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Perfect. On the plus side, my BP was 133/82 this morning, when it's been reading 148/80ish at the same time the past week or so.You just don't get the horror away. One has to suffer.
Mother fukers lol"improves other thongs"
Exaggerated claim! We need to see the thong pictures for verification. hairygrandpa and smith_69 can judge the thong improvements.
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