First cycle (Test C with LGD-4033) questions

[thatoneguy24]

Hello all. I'm going to start my first cycle in a month or so. Planning everything now. Anyway main questions are: Should I run an AI with this cycle (if yes I'm thinking .25 eod since first cycle)? Also would 8 week cycle be appropriate seeing as first timer or does the test need more time to really kick in?

5'11
203
12-13% (currently in cut to get at least 9% before I start cycle)

Test C - 300mg/week

LGD-4033 - 5mg/day

h2guard throughout cycle

Nova 2 weeks after last pin 40/40/20/20

 

[netflixNchill]

Only 300mg of test and 5mg of LGD a week? 500mg test a week and idk what proper LGD dosing protocol is but I know it's not 5mg a week

 

[thatoneguy24]

Oopsies! 5mg a day. I'll edit that.
Also I'm starting it 300 but look to finish dose at the higher end of 400-500. I'll do more research on proper dosing however

 

[dave39]

If you're only running an 8 week cycle I would consider short esters and higher doses.

 

[blahdeeblah]

Don't ramp up test. Start at 500 a week, split e3.5 days. You want stable blood levels throughout. And do 12 weeks. 8 is cutting it really short with a long ester. Or get prop and pin 75 ED. At 300, you might just shut yourself down, and replace your own test, it's more of a high cruising dose. And yes, get a legit AI. Test will raise your e2. Good luck

 

[thatoneguy24]

Would sides be at 500mg be pretty high? And 8 weeks was wrong call. I'm upping it to 12 weeks now

 

[Burnfire]

As long as you have a good AI you should be fine. It just depends on how your body reacts to the test. I like your set up man and 12 weeks would be better.

 

[thatoneguy24]

As a first timer who's looking to avoid sides, what mg dosage would you think is best, 300 or 500?

 

[Burnfire]

Start at 300 and work up to 500 if you feel comfortable.

 

[dave39]

As a first timer who's looking to avoid sides, what mg dosage would you think is best, 300 or 500?

Honestly, if you're looking to avoid sides...don't play with your hormones. There are no guarantees and everyone is different. Once you open Pandora's box you get what you get. Running less gear to avoid sides is the perfect way to a flopped cycle...unless you plan on staying on a low dose for a long time, which isn't recommended unless you are on TRT and utilizing HcG as well.

How old are you?

 

[thatoneguy24]

You're right, I'm not looking to avoid side completely I'm well aware it'll come with its sides I just wanted to minimize if possible. I've been researching constantly all day running lower mg and everything I read no one's gone below 450.

I'm 25

 

[dave39]

You're right, I'm not looking to avoid side completely I'm well aware it'll come with its sides I just wanted to minimize if possible. I've been researching constantly all day running lower mg and everything I read no one's gone below 450.

I'm 25

Don't overthink it man. Pin the 500mg per week, eat big and lots of protein. If your nips start feeling itchy start using your AI.
Don't panic and overdose your AI or you'll crash your estrogen and won't make the gains you want.

Keeping sides to a minimum comes from being consistent with your doses and using your AI appropriately.

 

[thatoneguy24]

Yeah definitely over thinking a tad. Quick question. In the LGD i have there is arimistane which from what I've read is an AI. It's 50mg a tab. Would this be AI overload?

 

[dave39]

Yeah definitely over thinking a tad. Quick question. In the LGD i have there is arimistane which from what I've read is an AI. It's 50mg a tab. Would this be AI overload?

No that will be fine, don't worry about that.

 

[thatoneguy24]

Alrighty. Thanks brother appreciate the advice a lot!

 

[dave39]

No worries man. Keep it simple and consistent. You'll be happy with your results as long as you train hard and keep your belly full.