As much as it sucks, and as stupid as it sounds, ANY time you mess around with hormones, you absolutely run the risk of throwing your "homeostasis" off balance, thus causing issues you normally wouldn't have. I went years with no gyno, ever! Then one trest cycle changed that forever, and now anything I take, causes it to flare up. I'm ripped at 170lbs, 10% bf too! Just because it's just ostarine, or gw, doesn't mean sh!t. Best bet is to drop everything, and normalize your body, and down the road plan on having symptoms on cycle.
Sorry man, I'm no expert at gyno. My experience was dropping the cause when it started and run a real AI, like Exem, and it will go away in time. I don't use nova, clomid, etc, cause I'm already on TRT. Do you have any other symptoms? Itchy, sore, swollen, etc??? It took two weeks to start, so figure atleast two weeks to go away. Mine have always gone away after discontinuing use. Everyone is different, and everyone's "acceptance" to exogenous hormones changes over time. If you have no other symptoms, it will most likely disappear after discontinuing use.
Not Need To Stop Unless You Can't Get Your lump under control first. Try nolva at 10mg ed to start and see where that gets you. I've got a lump under my right nipped that likes to grow every once in a while, I hit it with some exem and ralox and it's literally gone the next day.
Yes. I have no experience with prolactin induced gyno but prami would probably be your best choice. Are you squeezing your nipples to get this discharge to occur?
Yes. I was popping a zit around my nipple and it started leaking clear fluid. I have had a small lump that basically goes non existent off cycle. But I'm running a short msten cycle, with TRT, and have had no complaints, up until now. It's minor, but a first for me!
I wouldn't even trip about it tbh. Don't squeeze your nips and see if you have any more issues. Are you using any kind of ai?
Started Exem on the first day of noticing it. 12.5 mg a day. Which was two days ago. I was just surprised that with a good test base, and DHT Derivative, that it would even occur
Thanks man, will do, also how much exemastane to run?
12.5mg eod is a good place to start, adjust as needed
It's actually called brotein
I'm guessing you're young ? Same thing has happened to me as a kid on and off . It's just small bits of breast tissue . I wouldn't give it much thought .
Yeah I'm only 20 almost 21. I'm not worried too much about it just wondering if there was anything to help. I appreciate your input bro.
No problem , yeah just focus on working and filling your chest out . And btw most girls don't look at dudes nipples so don't worry if it's just an appearance thing .
Will do. I was just wondering because I don't want it to be a problem in the future or when I start cycling.
Not sure either. Hoping Yates weighs in!
Letro has the ability to crush estrogen far harder than aromasin. There are many remedies to riding gyno,
So what your saying is that it's really a waste, basically you are just shrinking it
Letro would be my absolute last resort effort of eliminating gyno, it crushes your estrogen levels and will make you feel horrible. I like to use ralox which blocks the estrogen receptors in breast tissue almost completely and starves the gyno from getting the estrogen it needs to grow. The exemestane is mainly used to regulate your actual estrogen levels so when you discontinue the ralox you don't have a massive amount of estrogen that could cause rebound gyno. Use of a serm like ralox, nolva, and clomid will actually increase estrogen levels so that's why the exemestane is so important to use in conjunction.
For now I am running 10mg nolva with 12.5mg exemestane each day. See how that will work. I have enough for 3 weeks.
That's should definitely provide some relief.
Yates u the man!
Basically, you shrink it, think its gone.. continue your AI in fear it will return during that cycle. Then you come off, go back on, it flares up again, you continue AI use, etc. leading down a dark path of AI abuse which it really isn't needed. AI does should be as low as possible but when you have flare ups, you need higher doses.
Clomid doesn't target estrogen receptors in breast tissue the same way nolva/ralox does so I don't think clomid is the way to go here. I like clomid better to restore hpta function and nolva better for my nips.
Makes me want to hit everything in sight lol
Lucky
DHT derivatives, even the best ones like Masteron and Primobolan, often increase the estrogenic activity in the nipples by increasing the estrogen receptor sensitivity. Desoxy T does this as well.
Excellent advise! My plan will be to use the Exem EOD until it's as little as possible. Only issue is I think the Exem is drying out my joints, cuz my shoulders are killing me and the last time was when I ran Exem after a ****ty trest cycle. Hopefully it goes away. Long term plan is to just maintain TRT dose only and keep everything clean! I fear now my TRT could inflame the painful lump, and then Id be pissed cuz I love being on TRT and don't want to have to stay on an AI permanently. Any advise on that?
See two paragraphs below this one for more info on solutions. Masteron-E, my friend. But only after you get the estrogen under control.Mast-Propionate works too but not as good. I've found that Masteron-E, supplemented at low doses ~ 100-200mg/wk, is sufficient to keep estrogen issues out of the way, while also increasing the effectiveness of the testosterone as well. The benefit here is that you get more muscle hardness, more sex drive, more anabolic synergy with the test yet the Masteron won't crush estrogen levels at that dose but rather just keep the estrogen from becoming an issue. It is a preventative measure, not a fix. I've always found that if I start up a cycle of something without any estrogen issues and no gyno symptoms, Masteron and other DHT's actually help keep me dry and gyno at bay. However, when I have existing gyno symptoms, Masteron, as well as Desoxy T, cause more issues. Lastly, once things are under control, run a lower dose of Test with the Masteron to make up your "TRT" dose. So if 200mg/wk is what you had in mind, run 100mg of each instead. It will do better things for your mood and cholesterol than the higher T dose w/ AI's. If you are taking legitimate TRT from a men's clinic or endo, talk to them about this option. Make sure they understand that you don't want "more" anabolics but rather a more efficient combination of drugs. Instead of 200mg T, take 100 of each Test and Mast for better results overall and a healthier cholesterol profile.
I'm wondering the same thing. Just started taking lecithin granules and don't want to worry about estrogen issues.
no, Soy Won't Cause Estrogen issues.
Honestly, if it is a reliable US source, then it isn't attainable thru illegal pathways unless someone at a pharmaceutical company or pharmacy is willing to skim from the company...
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