SuprDroL PCT help needed
- 05-07-2005, 11:13 PM
SuprDroL PCT help needed
Getting ready to start my first SD cycle...4 weeks
week-4(depending on gains...20mg or 30mg)
I am just having no luck finding nolvadex except for some canadian place so what can i take that will be just as effective....i was looking at rebountXT and 6-oxo....will that do what I need or what?
Thanks for any advice that you can give!!
- 05-07-2005, 11:27 PM
- 05-07-2005, 11:30 PM
keep looking for nolva and get some RXT. Use both, along with DHEA and fenugreek, among other things.
05-07-2005, 11:32 PM
05-07-2005, 11:43 PM
yeah, this seems to be what a lot of people are saying. Nolva isn't itself exactly innocuous, so my preference is to do a combo. Lower doses of nolva with low doses of RXT as well. Dunno if anyone has checked lipids with the combo though. It seems that RXT alone isn't the solution, esp in high doses. I'm gonna keep looking into all possibilities for my next PCT.Originally Posted by jmh80
05-08-2005, 02:21 AM
I too prefer to combine a "SERM" such as nolva with an aromatase inhibitor (such as rebound) as it is unlikely that the inhibitor will prevent all estrogen formation, and the receptor antagonist will take care of some of the rest. You dont want to go zero estrogen of course, but if your like me, then this combo will still leave enough active estrogen to prime receptors, and promote IGF, but will be low enough not to let you get bloated or get the puffy nipples. Perhaps you should stop looking for "Nolvadex" wich is a brand name, and start looking for the active ingredient in it "Tamoxifen citrate". ................And be sure to come oooooonnnn down and check out some of our board sponsers!!! (hint,hint)
05-08-2005, 08:24 AM
Hello and welcome.Originally Posted by nolekilla26
IBE (a board sponsor) has Nolva (Tamoxifen citrate in liquid form).
I would take a LOT of cholesterol lowering ancillaries if u gonna run SD for 4 weeks straight.
Also, after 2 or 3 weeks, you could feel too much back pain/fatigue/lethargy to make u stop or lower the dose. Dont worry, you would make great gauns anyway
My protocol for SD ancillaries is this:
Policosanol 20mg ED
Allimax 2 pills ED
Lots of good natural EFA oils (Udo's my favourite, also Sesathin and Coconut oil will help)
Anti-oxidants (vit C, E, NAC)
Milk Thristle or Liv.52
Glucosamine/Chronidotin or Celadrin (havent tried this one) - to help joints with the higher loads you will lift
Lean Xtreme, Phosphatidil Serine, ALCAR or other nutrient partitioners
And some cardio
You may want to add Rebound or 6oxo at low doses to make the recovery even faster. SD is not that suppressive. LX is a staple for PCT for me, instead.
Sidenote: I came to the conclusion that ancillaries and PCT costs much more than the gear itself, if u wanna be healthy and enjoy a cycle.
05-08-2005, 09:37 AM
05-08-2005, 05:23 PM
OK, I found Nolvadex and I ordered it today...I got 90 20MG tablets....hopefully that is enuff. I will be stacking SuprDr0l and M1P (yes I know that it hasn't been out olong and we don;t know what how they combine, but I talked to a lot of people who stacked M1T and SD and had great results and said to just do your PCT properly and fully) And I no that there is no more toxic thing than M1T.....so I will be a trial guy and keep you guys informed on how it goes)
Just need advice on dosages for Cycle then PCT:
week 1-10MG SD and 260 M1P
week 2&3-20MGSD and 260 M1P
week 4-30MGSD(if I am not seeing results, if I am then keeping at 20)and 260 mgM1P
week 5&6-40mg Nolva & 20MG ReboundXT
week7-20NOLVA and 10 Rebound
week 8-10 Nolva and 10 rebound
Also going to take milk thistle PCT for 4 weeks.
Any suggestions on what I should add or should dasage be changed. Thanks guys!
05-08-2005, 05:30 PM
I'd like to meet personally the liver of the fools who stacked M1T with any other methyl...Originally Posted by nolekilla26
BTW Nolva dosage is a bit too low. Stacked with RXT, should be something like 40/30/20/20. 90 tablets are enough.
M1P sounds like crap. If you want to stack something, get Max LMG, check the threads in ALRI forum here.
05-08-2005, 05:32 PM
i dunno about stacking two methyls could be extra hard on the liver, plus there is no real feedback on m1p so u better off running sd by itself
05-08-2005, 06:39 PM
DON't stack SD with M1P. I don't even know what M1P is, but don't do it! Don't mix methyls. Why? Grow fast and fine on one, maybe kick in some other NON-methyl. We aren't telling you what you can and can't do. JUst looking out. Rather you live happily and healthily than some minute advantage you'd get in 1 cycle potentially at the cost of your health!
05-08-2005, 06:44 PM
Its a methylated progestin released by -guess who- Legal Gear.Originally Posted by milwood
The studies circulating indicate that any weight gain is due to the appetite increase and its both mass and fat.
05-08-2005, 08:52 PM
hey nolekilla or anyone else who knows could u email me or pm me where u got that nolva from. i know where to get the liquid nolva from but i would perfer the pills. thanx alot
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