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Would M-Sten still be the best PH right now for strength? Looking to take something that will get my strength up. Last cycle consisted of 1-Andro and Super DMZ 2.0. However I am looking for a cut/recomp while gaining strength versus a bulk.

Should I stack another ph with M-Sten and then add in some cutting?
 
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Would M-Sten still be the best PH right now for strength? Looking to take something that will get my strength up. Last cycle consisted of 1-Andro and Super DMZ 2.0. However I am looking for a cut/recomp while gaining strength versus a bulk.

Should I stack another ph with M-Sten and then add in some cutting?
moderate dose msten will provide excellent strength even in a strong deficit
 

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Good. So I should take M-Sten and let the diet take care of the cutting?
 
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yes,, i would use the mirror as your guide.

whats your cycle support?
 

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I plan on the usual fish oil, tudca, and haven't looked into support yet. Can't remember what I took last time. And I have Nolva as well. Just looking into what would work best for me right now and then trying to price it out.
 
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Triumphalis+11oxo, I'm running triumphalis solo right now and the results are great
 
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Msten didn't do nearly as much in terms of strength for me as DMZ, or even Halo. Good size gains, but that DMZ strength for me is hard to match.

But...I don't consider DMZ 2.0 and 3.0 real DMZ.
 
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So searching black stone labs SDMZ 2.0. Both those compounds come up as methylstenbolone and what seems to be knock off dmz. Can anyone else comment??
 
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Msten didn't do nearly as much in terms of strength for me as DMZ, or even Halo. Good size gains, but that DMZ strength for me is hard to match.

But...I don't consider DMZ 2.0 and 3.0 real DMZ.
fave OG dmz?
 
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fave OG dmz?
I will list the 3 that I've ran in order of quality from my experience:

1. Myopharma Dimethabolin

2. LGI DMZ 15

3. OL Dymethazi9e

MG for MG that Myopharma knocks the other 2 out of the park. Ran the others at 40, 60 and 75, but 45 of the Dimethabolin was too much. Destroyed me. Also put the most weight on me along with the strength. Glad I have enough left to run about 4 weeks at 30mg.
 

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I will list the 3 that I've ran in order of quality from my experience:

1. Myopharma Dimethabolin

2. LGI DMZ 15

3. OL Dymethazi9e

MG for MG that Myopharma knocks the other 2 out of the park. Ran the others at 40, 60 and 75, but 45 of the Dimethabolin was too much. Destroyed me. Also put the most weight on me along with the strength. Glad I have enough left to run about 4 weeks at 30mg.
I can't find any of these. All come up discontinued due to ban. How about AT Extreme DMZ?
 
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I can't find any of these. All come up discontinued due to ban. How about AT Extreme DMZ?
I have no experience with it. It's been around forever, but can't recall any feedback on it. Maybe someone else can chime in on it.
 
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I have no experience with it. It's been around forever, but can't recall any feedback on it. Maybe someone else can chime in on it.
Physical:
stick around, contribute to the community and youll find what your 'need'

A/T extreme line:
the old school AT i.e anabolic technologies was legit, then reformed into Alphalab Technologies i believe that they were gtg aswell (dont quote me)

More than likely you are on EBAY looking at these products, the majority of them are bunk/knockoffsAT
 

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Msten didn't do nearly as much in terms of strength for me as DMZ, or even Halo. Good size gains, but that DMZ strength for me is hard to match.

But...I don't consider DMZ 2.0 and 3.0 real DMZ.
Maybe it was me but msten didn't impress me in the size department or the strength. Dmz on the other always blows me up
 

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Epi was super hard on my joints no matter what I took. I can't take that again.

I buy from a reputable guy on eBay that sells everything sealed.
 
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Epi was super hard on my joints no matter what I took. I can't take that again.

I buy from a reputable guy on eBay that sells everything sealed.
quién?
 

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Also, I have done SD, M-LMG, and a M-Sten underdosed before. After that I got onto some Stenzine which was amazing. Ran a few cycles of that over awhile and then it got banned. So I have had to pick up Super DMZ 2.0 which I guess is the closet to it.
 
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Epi was super hard on my joints no matter what I took. I can't take that again.

I buy from a reputable guy on eBay that sells everything sealed.
Every knock off on eBay is sealed fwiw.

As far as LMG - how did that go for you. Curious about it since its non methyl
 

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Every knock off on eBay is sealed fwiw.

As far as LMG - how did that go for you. Curious about it since its non methyl
I have ordered Super DMZ 2.0 from online. I believe the first time I bought it was from the company that makes it. Androlin or whatever that guys name is gave me a discount on it as he is a rep for them. And then next go I wanted to get it cheaper so I found it on eBay. Came the same way it did when I bought it from the company that makes it.

The M-LMG was my first cycle and it gave me gyno. I was uneducated at the time. Won't do that again so I make sure everything I do now won't convert.
 
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I was unaware LMG aromatized

Doesn't it cause prolactin to go nuts though
 

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Centurion still sells msten. Better than going through ebay
 

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