Best cutting/fat killer

[MMAguy]

Now that I've bulked up what's your fav ph or legal cutting agent to strip off some fat? I've always just used water and caffeine/tea and always worked.

 

[MMAguy]

Something that works not the typical fat burning product at your local supplement store. Those are just caffeine & some other herbs put together.

 

[Woody]

11-KT, EC/YC, Brite.

 

[heavylifter33]

EC, ECY, Tren, clen, t3, albuterol... others idk there's lots that help.

 

[stankyleg]

Sup3r 11 from olympus Hastur

 

[Hastur]

Sup3r 11 from olympus Hastur

Hands down the best anabolic I've ever used for cutting fat. My waist gets tighter and tighter on a daily basis. I saw visible changes within mere days, which has never occurred with any other compound. 250mg/day, over a week in, went from notch 2 on my weight lifting belt to notch 3, on at maintenance calories and staying at the same weight.

 

[Vikingbro]

Hastur. Do you need to apply the transdermal to the areas of the body you wish to reduce fat on or just apply it anywhere?

 

[Woody]

Hastur. Do you need to apply the transdermal to the areas of the body you wish to reduce fat on or just apply it anywhere?

It's not a localized effect so you can apply on your shoulders/traps etc

 

[Hastur]

Hastur. Do you need to apply the transdermal to the areas of the body you wish to reduce fat on or just apply it anywhere?

It's not a localized effect so you can apply on your shoulders/traps etc

Woody beat me to the punch! Indeed, the effects are tissue specific, but application can be anywhere for systemic absorption. I apply it to my neck, traps, collar bones, upper chest, and see visible stomach fat loss.

 

[stankyleg]

Sup3r 11 is the best I've ever used.

 

[Hastur]

Sup3r 11 is the best I've ever used.

I can now say the same. I've used a lot of compounds, and this is the fastest my midsection has ever reduced. Ever.

 

[stankyleg]

The only thing that comes close is tren, win, gh combo. Considering the cost , sides and wrecked lipids of the tren, win, gh combo, 11kt will be my go to.

 

[Vikingbro]

Thanks guys. Looks like OL are about to take more money off me this month

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Epistane Trenavar stack or Triumphalis 11oxo stack seem to be good for cut\recomp

 

[mrgoomba]

do i need to wait another 10 weeks after finishing an epi cycle to do 11-kt?

 

[Dma378]

do i need to wait another 10 weeks after finishing an epi cycle to do 11-kt?

Bridge into it.

 

[That_TRT_Guy]

Something that works not the typical fat burning product at your local supplement store. Those are just caffeine & some other herbs put together.

found these at my local grocer, doubled my fatloss rate

In all seriousness, all the supps previosly mentioned have great profiles, additionally i think many people over look the benefits of adding in some basic digestive enzymes:

Ox-bile w/ Pepsin & papaya is a favorite of mine.

 

[mrgoomba]

Bridge into it.

can you elaborate on how I would do this? Starting week 6 of epi recomp tomorrow. Starting to finally feel fatigue but very minimal (been using dermacrine).

 

[Dma378]

can you elaborate on how I would do this? Starting week 6 of epi recomp tomorrow. Starting to finally feel fatigue but very minimal (been using dermacrine).

Week 6 of how many?

If you were going to do this I would start the 11-KT ASAP. Preferably along with the last week or 2 of Epistane. And run it for 6 weeks solo (or with continued Dermacrine), then pct.

But would also use a good dose of the 11-KT. Coming off an Epistane cycle into a low dose of it may give you a drop off in performance and other functions. Kind of why I suggested continuing the Dermacrine along with it.

This is all speculative, I have never done this. But I would LOL

 

[BamBam0319]

Epistane Trenavar stack or Triumphalis 11oxo stack seem to be good for cut\recomp

Brah no one fux with 11oxo anymore now that 11kt is readily available

 

[mrgoomba]

Week 6 of how many?

If you were going to do this I would start the 11-KT ASAP. Preferably along with the last week or 2 of Epistane. And run it for 6 weeks solo (or with continued Dermacrine), then pct.

But would also use a good dose of the 11-KT. Coming off an Epistane cycle into a low dose of it may give you a drop off in performance and other functions. Kind of why I suggested continuing the Dermacrine along with it.

This is all speculative, I have never done this. But I would LOL

I still have 8-10 weeks of my cut left which is why I am considering this. I start week 6 of epi on tuesday, so far doesed at 30/30/30/45/45/45 with 3 pumps per day of dermacrine.

I can order sup3r 11 now but it wont get here in time to run for my entire last week of epi. Anyone else chime in on a bridge of doing the full 6 weeks of epi, then 4-5 weeks of 11 kt just to finish off that last bit of stubborn bf?

 

[hamdysayed]

Brah no one fux with 11oxo anymore now that 11kt is readily available

Same thought I had when I saw 11 oxo being recommended.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I still have 8-10 weeks of my cut left which is why I am considering this. I start week 6 of epi on tuesday, so far doesed at 30/30/30/45/45/45 with 3 pumps per day of dermacrine.

I can order sup3r 11 now but it wont get here in time to run for my entire last week of epi. Anyone else chime in on a bridge of doing the full 6 weeks of epi, then 4-5 weeks of 11 kt just to finish off that last bit of stubborn bf?

This may be a little unorthodox but meh, youre wanting to change your plans on-cycle anyway so...

Id get a 2 bottle special of sup3r11, and aim to run for 6-8 weeks. That would nicely see out your cut.

Not trying to pimp more product. But early feedback is stellar, plus theres all the positive reports of those who have run 11kt previously. Nothing worse than cycle regret ie wishing you had bought more than you had cos sh1ts goin good.

 

[mrgoomba]

6 weeks epi + 6 weeks sup3r11 too long of cycle? This is currently my 2nd cycle. I feel really good, but wonder how suppressed I will be

 

[Woody]

6 weeks epi + 6 weeks sup3r11 too long of cycle? This is currently my 2nd cycle. I feel really good, but wonder how suppressed I will be

6 weeks total or 12 total? If the latter, why not run them together?

 

[netflixNchill]

I contest that TD 11-oxo was amazing so I can only imagine what 11-kt will provide

 

[NewAgeMayan]

6 weeks epi + 6 weeks sup3r11 too long of cycle? This is currently my 2nd cycle. I feel really good, but wonder how suppressed I will be

Whilst it is still a hormonal and so wont alleviate suppression, it is very mild and so likely wouldnt make things worse. It would maintain some level of suppression I would imagine, for as long as you are running it.

What did you PCT with last time, and how successful was it?

 

[Dma378]

My Super-11 was in the mail today.....mmmmm, gonna go so nice with Tren and Mast

If that's any indication of how I feel about the stuff.

 

[That_TRT_Guy]

My Super-11 was in the mail today.....mmmmm, gonna go so nice with Tren and Mast

If that's any indication of how I feel about the stuff.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) so, its so bad you have to make up for it w/ tren... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

jk solid product

 

[Dma378]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) so, its so bad you have to make up for it w/ tren... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

jk solid product

Touché

 

[mrgoomba]

6 weeks total or 12 total? If the latter, why not run them together?

I'm just finishing epi and came across this spur of the moment

 

[mrgoomba]

Whilst it is still a hormonal and so wont alleviate suppression, it is very mild and so likely wouldnt make things worse. It would maintain some level of suppression I would imagine, for as long as you are running it.

What did you PCT with last time, and how successful was it?

To be honest, I just did otc. I know, newb mistake but I did jeep gains. However, it took me about 6 months to feel normal again. Never again

 

[NewAgeMayan]

To be honest, I just did otc. I know, newb mistake but I did jeep gains. However, it took me about 6 months to feel normal again. Never again

Bugger! What you got lined up this run?

 

[mrgoomba]

Bugger! What you got lined up this run?

Super pct, Nolva, and exemestane. Doing things right!

So should I bridge into 6 weeks 11kt or just run my pct and finish the cut natty with EC?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Super pct, Nolva, and exemestane. Doing things right!

So should I bridge into 6 weeks 11kt or just run my pct and finish the cut natty with EC?

Up to you man but if it were me and I was feeling good Id be doing the bridge. Youd also be bumping kcal around PCT too if you did the longer cycle?

 

[netflixNchill]

If you're using nolva there is no use for exem, maybe grab some clomid though

 

[mrgoomba]

Up to you man but if it were me and I was feeling good Id be doing the bridge. Youd also be bumping kcal around PCT too if you did the longer cycle?

I bulked at 3700 cals. Was losing 1lb per week cutting at 2700 so that's what I kept it at while on epi. Started epi a few weeks into cut at 204lb. Last Wednesday I weighed in at 208lb and down 2% on calipers (probably 12% now).

I think I might rush order sup3er-11 and do it for 5 weeks at 2700 calories, adding an additional day of cardio. I will probably stay the same calories for 4 week pct as well

 

[mrgoomba]

If you're using nolva there is no use for exem, maybe grab some clomid though

Yates has always recommended exemestane 0/0/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 to prevent rebound Gyno. If read a few horror stories

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Brah no one fux with 11oxo anymore now that 11kt is readily available

I meant 11kt, oops