SUP3R-1 AND LETHARGY

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I will be starting SUP3R-1 around mid june
and i would like to avoid the fatigue that might come with it,
What do u guys take to combat this?
I just wanted to run this solo and not add another
like SUP3R-4
 

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Any reason you are averse to adding in some 4andro?
 

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only reason is im worried is more compounds more
sides
 

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In this case IMO, more compounds less sides. This is a stack that you WANT to run together.
yes this seems to be the consensus
that or Dermacrine...but i dont see myself rubbing daily
especially at my age
 

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yes this seems to be the consensus
that or Dermacrine...but i dont see myself rubbing daily
especially at my age
From what Ive seen, and my own experience, it would seem your options are limited to:

1) Get some SUP3R-4
2) Get some dermacrine
3) Dont bother, and just tough it out

You may not get any lethargy; or, if you do, you may find youre able to work through it. Furthermore, no-one can say with any certainty at what dose you WILL get lethargy. For some, its less than 150mg/d, others have to dose 3x that.
 

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From what Ive seen, and my own experience, it would seem your options are limited to:

1) Get some SUP3R-4
2) Get some dermacrine
3) Dont bother, and just tough it out

You may not get any lethargy; or, if you do, you may find youre able to work through it.
dont want to take a chance
I need to be very alert at work
is one better than the other?
 

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dont want to take a chance
I need to be very alert at work
is one better than the other?
Theoretically 4andro should do the trick, if dosed sufficiently. If $$ was not an issue, Id get both, as the dermacrine has a different MoA than 4andro and could be of benefit regardless. As you noted though, dermacrine is a topical.
 

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yes this seems to be the consensus
that or Dermacrine...but i dont see myself rubbing daily
especially at my age
How does dermacrine work as a test base as compared to say a 4 andro product?
 

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Theoretically 4andro should do the trick, if dosed sufficiently. If $$ was not an issue, Id get both, as the dermacrine has a different MoA than 4andro and could be of benefit regardless. As you noted though, dermacrine is a topical.
i will prob just get the 4 andro
I am planning on doing the 1 Andro for 40 days 330mg a day
can i run the 4 Andro at 220mg a day throughout?
 

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i will prob just get the 4 andro
I am planning on doing the 1 Andro for 40 days 330mg a day
can i run the 4 Andro at 220mg a day throughout?
That should be all good. But again, Im reluctant to assure you that you will definitely NOT experience any lethargy.
 
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i will prob just get the 4 andro
I am planning on doing the 1 Andro for 40 days 330mg a day
can i run the 4 Andro at 220mg a day throughout?
That should be fine. Definitely want a base for 1 Andro as most people experience lethargy.

4-Andro is the only "real" test base out but Dermacrine does help combat the lethargy as They're both good for 1-Andro but I give the edge to 4-andro. Start at 220 and adjust if needed.
 
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