What to run with tren

[shakenblake]

So I'm looking at doing tren for the first time running either ace or enan with test prop. Goals are to put on some size and drop bf percentage in the process... And what I mean is I would like my fat mass to stay the same so my lean mass gains cause bf percentage to lower.

Help would be great!

250 lbs
13-15% bf
5'10.5"

 

[McCrew530]

Just run tren and test...

 

[dave39]

Just run tren and test...

This.

If you aren't happy with your results - up your trainining intensity and your dosage. Eat for the goal you have.

 

[BamBam0319]

I would definitely keep it at tren and test for your first time, and I would use acetate so if you experience bad side effects you can stop usage and have the compound cleared from your system within a matter of days.

 

[shakenblake]

I would definitely keep it at tren and test for your first time, and I would use acetate so if you experience bad side effects you can stop usage and have the compound cleared from your system within a matter of days.

Eod pins or Ed?

 

[BamBam0319]

Eod pins or Ed?

I did every day but a lot of people do EOD, personal choice really

 

[shakenblake]

I did every day but a lot of people do EOD, personal choice really

Ohh so tren e would just take longer to clear my system... I don't wanna pin too much so what if I start at a low dose and work my way up? Think that would be fine?

 

[BamBam0319]

Ohh so tren e would just take longer to clear my system... I don't wanna pin too much so what if I start at a low dose and work my way up? Think that would be fine?

It's still going to take a long time to leave your system if you go with enanthate, no matter what dose you do. IMO tren ace is best for first time tren runs, and honestly most people prefer it even after that. EOD pinning isn't really that bad. You could even get some slin pins and use those to still inject intramuscular.

 

[Dma378]

Test / Tren / Mast

 

[McCrew530]

Test / Tren / Mast

=shred city

 

[shakenblake]

=shred city

Dose for mast? How often pin?

 

[shakenblake]

It's still going to take a long time to leave your system if you go with enanthate, no matter what dose you do. IMO tren ace is best for first time tren runs, and honestly most people prefer it even after that. EOD pinning isn't really that bad. You could even get some slin pins and use those to still inject intramuscular.

What gauge are we talking, I have 23's

 

[BamBam0319]

What gauge are we talking, I have 23's

I use 23g needles too but the slin pins I used were 29g I believe

 

[Dma378]

Dose for mast? How often pin?

Depends on the ester. Mast E e3-5d. Mast P ed-eod

 

[McCrew530]

Mast should be good, at 4-500mg a,week

 

[Blergs]

use tren ace if first time with tren. and MIN of EOD if not ed pins.
if you do well, then try trenE sometime, I liek it more than trenace. but generally dont like tren now, pref maste teste cycle anyday.

 

[Coopster44]

I run a tren a, mast, and prop blend at 300mgs a week with 500 mgs cyp. Eod except the cyp is twice a week. I will say though as much as I love mast I swear every time I use it I loose more hair. Which sucks. Lol.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Maybe an oral kickstart with compound of choice?

 

[pyrobatt]

So I'm looking at doing tren for the first time running either ace or enan with test prop. Goals are to put on some size and drop bf percentage in the process... And what I mean is I would like my fat mass to stay the same so my lean mass gains cause bf percentage to lower.

Help would be great!

250 lbs
13-15% bf
5'10.5"

Test/tren/Mk677 and prami.

Test and tren are old favorites but with mk677 and prami I think you have a winner.

Prami+mk677 should compliment the test /tren by increasing growth hormone/igf1. I need to do blood work on the combo.

I only say prami because it Uncaps your potential gh pulses which are bigger because of mk677. Plus prolactin sides from the test and tren.
I'm researching this right now infact. May do a write up on synergistic drugs if I get enough request. I've learned a butt load.

 

[BamBam0319]

Test/tren/Mk677 and prami.

Test and tren are old favorites but with mk677 and prami I think you have a winner.

Prami+mk677 should compliment the test /tren by increasing growth hormone/igf1. I need to do blood work on the combo.

I only say prami because it Uncaps your potential gh pulses which are bigger because of mk677. Plus prolactin sides from the test and tren.
I'm researching this right now infact. May do a write up on synergistic drugs if I get enough request. I've learned a butt load.

Test/tren/prami/MK 677 was pretty much exactly what I ran for most of the cycle that I just finished. It was awesome. I also threw in some ipamorelin and GW-501516

You should do that write up.

 

[dave39]

Test/tren/Mk677 and prami.

Test and tren are old favorites but with mk677 and prami I think you have a winner.

Prami+mk677 should compliment the test /tren by increasing growth hormone/igf1. I need to do blood work on the combo.

I only say prami because it Uncaps your potential gh pulses which are bigger because of mk677. Plus prolactin sides from the test and tren.
I'm researching this right now infact. May do a write up on synergistic drugs if I get enough request. I've learned a butt load.

As long as you are providing information that makes sense it would be a good read.

 

[criticalbench]

=shred city

Only if you are very lean.. otherwise mast aint doin shiat.. and going to need a good 600mg/wk min IMO.

 

[shakenblake]

Test/tren/Mk677 and prami.

Test and tren are old favorites but with mk677 and prami I think you have a winner.

Prami+mk677 should compliment the test /tren by increasing growth hormone/igf1. I need to do blood work on the combo.

I only say prami because it Uncaps your potential gh pulses which are bigger because of mk677. Plus prolactin sides from the test and tren.
I'm researching this right now infact. May do a write up on synergistic drugs if I get enough request. I've learned a butt load.

Ought caber was the only one to help with prolactin sides?

 

[BamBam0319]

Ought caber was the only one to help with prolactin sides?

Prami does too, and doesn't have the possible cardiovascular side effects that caber does

 

[shakenblake]

Prami does too, and doesn't have the possible cardiovascular side effects that caber does

So I could still get cardio in while on tren?

 

[BamBam0319]

So I could still get cardio in while on tren?

I'd highly recommend continuing cardio while on tren even if you were using caber. Tren has effects on your lungs/breathing no matter what ancillary you're taking with it, so it could make cardio a little more taxing but it's good to keep it in and keep your respiratory and cardiovascular systems in as best shape as possible. If you're not taking anything liver damaging, GW-501516 (cardarine) could help with the cardio.