which is Best? 1ad/4ad/epiandro/11-keto?

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Which is best/most effective, with low sides?


1) Epi-Andro (Epiandrosterone)

2)1ad-4-ad stack

3)11-Keto-Testosterone

4) LG 17-ProAndro

There is a 1-ad, epiandro,4-ad, stack (would this be for advanced only?)


Experiences please.


Im on a recomp, high protein, medium low cals, low carbs.


Also, would it need to wait until after ostarine cycle and pct?
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as far as recomp goes...11/kt with epiandro would probably be your best bet to lose fat. Will be logging that starting this week actually
 
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Epiandro is great for leaning up. Great addition to any cut/recomp cycle.
 
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the most effective compound listed in terms of muscle mass gained will be 1-ANDRO imo.


Our LG loggers have all been noting ~10lbs+ in 4 weeks, while retaining or improving on their bf %
 
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How long have you been on osta and at what doses?

What do you have lined up for pct?

I know your goal is recomp but if you're on osta now then you're probably going to want to wait to start a new cycle.
 
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If your asking me day 11 on Osta and Epiandro, haven't cycled anything in years. Been on 75mg test c a week for about a year for trt. Would like to come off everything after cycle, I have clomid and nolva on hand, along with an up coming order of OL's otc PCT
 
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^ It was directed towards OP. His asking if he needs to do pct after osta or jump right in has me a little concerned. I think we were posting at the same time though.
 
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I confused you guys I think - I was going to cut the ostarine after two weeks and run one of these instead then go to pct.

In this case however im going to finish up a run of ostarine of 6 weeks, pct 3 weeks nolva & sup3r PCT (which has AI/herbal serm/libido herbs).... then some time after this (?) start one of the above (likely epiandro)

Running 10/10/15/20/20/20 mg ostarine taking notes of sides.

How long afte rpct should one wait, bearing in mind its not crazy supression here
 
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cant wait for that!! There needed to be another supplier of it out there

Transdermal? hopefully?
 
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and is there a mailing list im missing? Im signed up to olympus website newsletter
 
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Yes. Epiandro is currently exclusively sold at PHW Supplements and 1 andro and 4 andro will be released at Strong Supplement Shop.
 
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Tomorrow is the scheduled release day for the OL 1&4 at strong :)
 
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Which is best/most effective, with low sides?
I don't know LG ProAndro or 11KT, so obviously I'd say the 1-Andro with either 4-AD or EpiAndro if you've never run a PH cycle before (in case of problems, you want to be able to determine which compound is the trouble maker). 1-Andro has the Texas study to back it up. If you *have* used PH's before, I think using *both* 4-AD *and* EpiAndro as a hormone base is best. Hits both sides of the pathway (DHT & Testosterone, with DHT minimizing Estrogen).
 

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