What should I expect

[warlordwrug]

I'm actually brand new to the ph/designer steroid compounds, I've always stuck to AAS mostly test since its so cheap also I'm not going to lie I always thought ph were bull**** until a few years back I saw guys talking about superdrol. I've ran test base at 100mg ed for a 4 week cycle. test e at 1000mg for 12 weeks. 1200mg for 8 weeks & test e & test base at 1530mg a week for 8 weeks. I ran a epistane cycle at 40/40/50/50/70 & i was actually extremely disappointed. i know it was real could of been underdosed but i decided not to run tudca or any liver support.i did a cutting cycle at 1600 to 1800 calories a day only lost 5lbs & 1 inch off my waist. Maybe I was expecting too much but i read epistane was one of the best cutting compounds. Anyways i'm about to run this.mass king stack 20 mg of Dymethazine,20 mg of Max lmg,25 mg of Halodrol,30 mg of hexadrone 10 mg of trenavar. 2 pills a day brings it up to 1470mg a week. Would this compare to 1500mg of test or am i kidding myself?

 

[afluck410]

No lol

 

[warlordwrug]

No lol

so i should just stick to my test?

 

[NattyBoy]

Epistane was my first cycle of anything, I bumped calories up slightly and managed to pack on 15.5lbs while slightly reducing bodyfat in a 4 week cycle, great compound imo. Running all the stuff you mentioned is dumb. What is your goals? I can list a few compounds for you to look into, but I'd recommend running them solo or paired with a nonmethyl. Epistane and trenavar is a well-known stack that is good for cutting btw

 

[afluck410]

Test injection will always beat out these orals long term

 

[NattyBoy]

Test injection will always beat out these orals long term

Run both

 

[warlordwrug]

Epistane was my first cycle of anything, I bumped calories up slightly and managed to pack on 15.5lbs while slightly reducing bodyfat in a 4 week cycle, great compound imo. Running all the stuff you mentioned is dumb. What is your goals? I can list a few compounds for you to look into, but I'd recommend running them solo or paired with a nonmethyl. Epistane and trenavar is a well-known stack that is good for cutting btw

Why is the stack a bad idea?to many methyl compounds or just not effective doses?my goal is to bulk Im at 220lb 15%

 

[NattyBoy]

Why is the stack a bad idea?to many methyl compounds or just not effective doses?my goal is to bulk Im at 220lb 15%

Overkill, run a solo methyl with a test base. Dymethazine is what I'll be running in a week or two, makes a good bulking cycle.

 

[warlordwrug]

Test injection will always beat out these orals long term

plus test is a lot cheaper.

 

[warlordwrug]

Overkill, run a solo methyl with a test base. Dymethazine is what I'll be running in a week or two, makes a good bulking cycle.

i heard the sweet spot is 40mg to 50mg

 

[NattyBoy]

plus test is a lot cheaper.

You can just stick to test lol, or test+dmz

 

[NattyBoy]

i heard the sweet spot is 40mg to 50mg

30-40 probably. My cycle is 32/32/32/48/48 but I also only weigh 166.5 rn so it'll hit me hard lol

 

[warlordwrug]

Overkill, run a solo methyl with a test base. Dymethazine is what I'll be running in a week or two, makes a good bulking cycle.

toxicity would you compare it to epistane or is it worse?

 

[NattyBoy]

I'll be logging my cycle thread name is "dmz" just watch over it and see how i respond, will be my second cycle so I'm expecting a lot

 

[warlordwrug]

I'll be logging my cycle thread name is "dmz" just watch over it and see how i respond, will be my second cycle so I'm expecting a lot

alright what brand are you using?

 

[NattyBoy]

toxicity would you compare it to epistane or is it worse?

Worse. Dymethazine is two superdrol molecules bonded by a nitrogen atom. Little weaker than superdrol and less toxic on the liver due to it's azine bond. Damage control+ extra tudca and you'll be fine (im not even adding extra tudca, too expensive for my cheap ass lmao)

 

[NattyBoy]

alright what brand are you using?

Anabolic technologies, it was a pre-ban one

 

[warlordwrug]

Worse. Dymethazine is two superdrol molecules bonded by a nitrogen atom. Little weaker than superdrol and less toxic on the liver due to it's azine bond. Damage control+ extra tudca and you'll be fine (im not even adding extra tudca, too expensive for my cheap ass lmao)

there's a few companies out of poland & I think spain who make a liver support. one company is called ESSENSIVAL other is Essentiale Forte. They contain Phospholipids,they do the same thing as tudca & its half the price but itll probably take forever to get it.atleast 2 weeks

 

[NattyBoy]

there's a few companies out of poland & I think spain who make a liver support. one company is called ESSENSIVAL other is Essentiale Forte. They contain Phospholipids,they do the same thing as tudca & its half the price but itll probably take forever to get it.atleast 2 weeks

Don't know anything about that man, I'm just running Lgi Damage Control, it already has 200mg tudca per serving

 

[warlordwrug]

Anabolic technologies, it was a pre-ban one

**** is expensive look at xl labs they have the best price for dmz but they are based out of the uk. another company what is cheap is also king labs I think they are in new jersey

 

[NattyBoy]

**** is expensive look at xl labs they have the best price for dmz but they are based out of the uk. another company what is cheap is also king labs I think they are in new jersey

Never heard of them, seems shady af tbh. Dmz is a banned substance in the uk so that makes no sense

 

[warlordwrug]

Never heard of them, seems shady af tbh. Dmz is a banned substance in the uk so that makes no sense

majority of the companies i've seen selling dmz after the ban has been based out of the uk.especially german pharmaceutical mdrol

 

[NattyBoy]

majority of the companies i've seen selling dmz after the ban has been based out of the uk.especially german pharmaceutical mdrol

Mebolazine aka roxilon aka dymethazine is a class c substance in the uk m8

 

[NattyBoy]

majority of the companies i've seen selling dmz after the ban has been based out of the uk.especially german pharmaceutical mdrol

Notice how all those companies are never mentioned on forums and whatnot lol?

 

[warlordwrug]

Mebolazine aka roxilon aka dymethazine is a class c substance in the uk m8

I know I believe you,I looked it up already prior to this conversation. I don't know how they are doing it because I've come across about 6 or 7 uk companies selling it.

 

[NattyBoy]

I know I believe you,I looked it up already prior to this conversation. I don't know how they are doing it because I've come across about 6 or 7 uk companies selling it.

Idk I wouldn't risk it, none of the sources based out there that I know sell dmz, so its shady for others to sell it

 

[warlordwrug]

I only know of two us based companies selling & still making dmz is anabolic outlaws & king labs & they are basically sticking to dmz,msten & alpha since they weren't on the list. I'll probably try out both companies because I hate dealing with customs

 

[NattyBoy]

I only know of two us based companies selling & still making dmz is anabolic outlaws & king labs & they are basically sticking to dmz,msten & alpha since they weren't on the list. I'll probably try out both companies because I hate dealing with customs

Alphalab Technologies Xtreme Dmz is the newer version of mine, and it's cheap af. I talked to another member on here about it and he said his friend is on it, already seeing results. Dln dmz-25 is another one, but it's newer to the market and more pricey, keep in mind this one is a sublingual product.

 

[warlordwrug]

Alphalab Technologies Xtreme Dmz is the newer version of mine, and it's cheap af. I talked to another member on here about it and he said his friend is on it, already seeing results. Dln dmz-25 is another one, but it's newer to the market and more pricey, keep in mind this one is a sublingual product.

I know alphalab,ive seen them on ebay but i just looked up dln dmz **** is expensive as ****.Oh i forgot also Tokkyo sells dmz but I've never heard of them

 

[NattyBoy]

I know alphalab,ive seen them on ebay but i just looked up dln dmz **** is expensive as ****.Oh i forgot also Tokkyo sells dmz but I've never heard of them

Tokkyo seems shady too. Alphalab is sold at nutriverse and other retailers

 

[warlordwrug]

Tokkyo seems shady too. Alphalab is sold at nutriverse and other retailers

ive heard bad things about nutriverse & a1supplements on other aas forums saying they got bunk stuff

 

[NattyBoy]

ive heard bad things about nutriverse & a1supplements on other aas forums saying they got bunk stuff

Chit..I'm usually on this forum so I haven't heard much. Good thing your reviewing the sources before you dump your money on them. I got my dmz from a local shop that bought pre-ban

 

[NattyBoy]

Keep looking around, I'm sure you'll find a gtg source. Look into the alphalab xtreme dmz more, I've talked to one person about it and they said it was gtg

 

[warlordwrug]

Chit..I'm usually on this forum so I haven't heard much. Good thing your reviewing the sources before you dump your money on them. I got my dmz from a local shop that bought pre-ban

well ill keep you & everyone on hear updated on xl labs,king labs,Tokkyo & the others. If their legit ill tell if not im going to put them on blast on ebay,amazon,google etc

 

[BamBam0319]

ive heard bad things about nutriverse & a1supplements on other aas forums saying they got bunk stuff

Lol what forums? I frequently purchase from nutriverse and never had that problem

 

[NattyBoy]

Lol what forums? I frequently purchase from nutriverse and never had that problem

Nutriverse seems to be legit tbh, dunno what bunk products they could've put out

 

[BamBam0319]

Nutriverse seems to be legit tbh, dunno what bunk products they could've put out

They're just a retailer site so everything they sell is made by other companies. If something is bunk, it's not nutriverse that's at fault.

 

[warlordwrug]

Keep looking around, I'm sure you'll find a gtg source. Look into the alphalab xtreme dmz more, I've talked to one person about it and they said it was gtg

i already have my stack for 8 week cycle by xl labs.so im going to take the chance & run it.**** i spent $110 for two damn bottles

 

[NattyBoy]

i already have my stack for 8 week cycle by xl labs.so im going to take the chance & run it.**** i spent $110 for two damn bottles

8 weeks is too long for a methyl, especially if it's more than one methyl

 

[warlordwrug]

8 weeks is too long for a methyl, especially if it's more than one methyl

I do blood work midway through all of my cycles so ill be checking my ldl,hdl,alt etc

 

[warlordwrug]

Lol what forums? I frequently purchase from nutriverse and never had that problem

mesorx/thinksteroids