Can I kickstart and finish a test e cycle with prop

[Superfox]

Tell me what you guys think of this cycle
Weeks 1-8 test e 500mg a week
Weeks 1-3 test prop 50mg eod
Weeks 9-10 test prop 100mg eod

My thinking for this cycle was that the prop would give me a decent kickstart while I wait for the test e to kick in and also decrease the gap to pct from 21 to 3 days am I correct?

 

[jakz]

If it is your first cycle,rather try an oral kickstart like dbol or winstrol depending on needs

 

[BamBam0319]

I've thought about this myself, except would add in some orals as well.
And as jakz said, if this is your first go, just leave out the prop and grab some dbol or something.

 

[Dma378]

I would still kick it with 100mg of Prop eod weeks 1-3. And start the Prop during the last week of Cyp and run it those 2 weeks before pct, starting your SERM 3 days after last Prop injection.

Prop and Cyp first cycle still milder than Cyp and Dbol

 

[jakz]

I would still kick it with 100mg of Prop eod weeks 1-3. And start the Prop during the last week of Cyp and run it those 2 weeks before pct, starting your SERM 3 days after last Prop injection.

Prop and Cyp first cycle still milder than Cyp and Dbol

Milder yes,better yes..but for a first cycle the test P pip will be unbearable

 

[Dma378]

Milder yes,better yes..but for a first cycle the test P pip will be unbearable

Eh, I will disagree. Agree to disagree.

I would agree as a newbie, technique on pinning wouldn't be perfect so EOD injections could be a pain. I just never got that Horrible Prop pip. I mean I definitely feel it more than Cyp or anything else long ester. But was never unbearable.

 

[TheGoodLife35]

I have never gotten pain from pinning anything other then Tren. Tren is a bitch with burning, coughing and shortness of breath sometimes.

The cycle sounds fun because you'll get a break from the everyday pinning from prop.

 

[jakz]

Eh, I will disagree. Agree to disagree.

I would agree as a newbie, technique on pinning wouldn't be perfect so EOD injections could be a pain. I just never got that Horrible Prop pip. I mean I definitely feel it more than Cyp or anything else long ester. But was never unbearable.

Exactly with virgin muscle and the newb not having a steady hand yet it could be bad...I think oral or prop could work..depending on how painful the brand is..for eg the new gear I use I can do whatever I want with no PIP but the previous gear I Did everything possible and still wound up with pip

 

[Superfox]

It is my first cycle I've been doing research for months what turns me off from dbol is the bloat and I don't have the strongest liver to begin with so I'm trying to avoid Italy's my biggest concern is the shut down before pct that's why prop appeals to me I know it's supposed to be a bitch to pin but I figure I'll get used to it fairly quick

 

[Superfox]

Orals**

 

[BamBam0319]

I'd be interested in following if you're logging it. Will be doing test prop tren ace and test e in the last half of my next cycle

 

[Superfox]

Any advice on pinning prop? I heard mixing it with grape seed oil almost eliminates pip

 

[Dma378]

Any advice on pinning prop? I heard mixing it with grape seed oil almost eliminates pip

Good technique + Good gear = no PIP.

Good technique + Bad gear = some PIP

Bad technique + Good gear = some PIP depending on how bad your technique is

Bad technique + Bad Gear = a fuking nightmare

I don't know about mixing with additional GSO. Chances are it is already brewed in it. I wouldn't F with it. Hopefully the lab has it right. I have 2 brands of Prop right now. 1 is like butter, and 1 has me a tad sore the next day. And I'm a pinning pro. So it depends on the gear man. The idea that ALL Prop gives PIP is false.

But what better way to get better at pinning than do it EOD.

 

[jakz]

Ok,my advice would be hot water..heat up the oil before injecting,inject VERY slowly,DON'T move the needle,apply pressure after injection step into a hot shower after injecting and massage the **** out of the i jection site under hot water for 5 minutes.

 

[jakz]

Have you ever considerd Sust ?

 

[AustBenny]

Lol everyone loses their mind over a little PIP.

 

[Dma378]

Lol everyone loses their mind over a little PIP.

You must have had the help of a pro when you started out

 

[Mkgain1]

My first pinning cycle ever this is what I did, I kicked with 100mg prop eod while loading the cyp, I was lucky enough to have good gear but my technique was poor (even did a sketchy pin in my right pec, needless to say I'll never do that again) nonetheless, the pip was pretty bad but definitely bearable. In a sick way I kind of enjoyed it. I think it's a great first cycle, and if you're willing to pin eod go for it. Just rotate your inj sites.

Little pointer I picked up on that first cycle was after you pin, deeply massage the area, then again before bed that night, and first thing in the morning. That really cut down on the duration and intensity of the pip

 

[AustBenny]

You must have had the help of a pro when you started out

Lol sure did but at worst it's just a bit of soreness, if u let it stop u do anything you need to register your vagina with the DMV.

 

[dustter]

is this cycle still going or did you start...?

 

[swollz]

Who hasn't started a e run with prop... I like being a pin cushion

 

[BamBam0319]

Who hasn't started a e run with prop... I like being a pin cushion

Same. Pinning every day for 6 weeks right now lol

 

[Audioph1x]

Inb4 next thread "Horrible PIP with Prop and Cyp.. HELP"

 

[dustter]

Same. Pinning every day for 6 weeks right now lol

I wanted to do my first cycle with prop kickstart but decided im big a newbie to pin that much so i just decided anavar instead