Help with cycle.

[jflemmd]

Planning to run an Epi and tren cycle, looking to focus on loosing fat while getting some muscle gains. Plan to add epiandro as test base.
But I have a few questions I need people to shed some light on. I recently ran a sten dmz cycle and did not receive the results I wanted, I may not have been taking enough of each is what I assume, so I want to make sure this one is set up to be a beast of a cycle.

Best brands of the two ph's I'm looking at?
(I was looking at vital labs epi2a3a)

What sarm would be best to help with this? Or is there a company that makes a sarm stack with osta and lgd or something similar

Would adding dmz be too much?

 

[NattyBoy]

Epistane and trenavar will be enough, no need for any sarm or the addition of dmz. Adding androvar or dermacrine would be nice as a test base, both are epiandrosterone products. Sweetpoint dosage for epi is 30-45 and trenavar 90-120, i would run for 6 weeks as epi really shines towards week 3. Have a good cycle support with tudca and a proper serm pct. I personally like running sup3r pct with serm of choice as it is simple and covers all aspects

 

[jflemmd]

Thank you. I run arimacare and sup3r pct. those are my go to. I need to see if arima has tudca

 

[NattyBoy]

Arima has tudca in it already. Do you have a serm pct?

 

[georgetown]

I wouldnt use dmz if this is your first cycle, epi and tren should be good enough and like stated dermacrine or epiandro is fine for a test base, really don't think a sarm is necessary id rather spend that money on pct supps or post pct supps to help make more gains

Please note i said SARM not SERM, a SERM like nolva or clomid is needed for proper pct

 

[jflemmd]

I plan to use rebirth for pct, is that enough? And what post pct sups do you mean? I usually use Follidrone, sup3r pct and rebirth. Something else in mind?

 

[BamBam0319]

Epistane and trenavar will be enough, no need for any sarm or the addition of dmz. Adding androvar or dermacrine would be nice as a test base, both are epiandrosterone products. Sweetpoint dosage for epi is 30-45 and trenavar 90-120, i would run for 6 weeks as epi really shines towards week 3. Have a good cycle support with tudca and a proper serm pct. I personally like running sup3r pct with serm of choice as it is simple and covers all aspects

Dermacrine isn't epiandrosterone, everything else I agree with

 

[BamBam0319]

I plan to use rebirth for pct, is that enough? And what post pct sups do you mean? I usually use Follidrone, sup3r pct and rebirth. Something else in mind?

No. You need a SERM (clomid or nolvadex).

 

[jflemmd]

Thank you. Any companies I should use for the ph's?

 

[BamBam0319]

Olympus labs if you can get your hands on them. Still on sale in the UK

 

[NattyBoy]

Olympus labs if you can get your hands on them. Still on sale in the UK

+1 for olympus

 

[NattyBoy]

Dermacrine isn't epiandrosterone, everything else I agree with

****...I had mistaken the Dhea for epiandrosterone lmfao!

 

[NattyBoy]

I plan to use rebirth for pct, is that enough? And what post pct sups do you mean? I usually use Follidrone, sup3r pct and rebirth. Something else in mind?

Sup3r Pct plus clomid 50/50/25/25 is gucci.

 

[NattyBoy]

Also, since you are running trenavar, having pramipexole or canergoline on hand for prolactin sides would be smart. Prolactin could give you that tren dick and a nice fatty pair of nips.

 

[jflemmd]

Should I just run the pramipexole through cycle to be safe?

 

[NattyBoy]

Should I just run the pramipexole through cycle to be safe?

You could but its not necessary, i would wait for more opinions on that though, i could be wrong with my opinion

 

[jflemmd]

I doubt I'll get too many more, but I can hope

 

[NattyBoy]

I doubt I'll get too many more, but I can hope

Maybe just run like inhibit p on cycle but have caber or prami on hand. Having estrogen in check usually should lessen the risks of prolactin sides, and epistane having anti-estrogenic properties should help with that

 

[Audioph1x]

Fukc man. Do some motherphukkn reading. Every damn day there's a half a dozen new threads asking the same phukkin chit.

 

[NattyBoy]

Fukc man. Do some motherphukkn reading. Every damn day there's a half a dozen new threads asking the same phukkin chit.

If nobody asked this chit, how would they look back at older threads on these topics? Not like its hard to give simple advice.

 

[Audioph1x]

Daymmit NattyBoy. Why must you be the voice of reason in this chit. You're too mufukkin helpful.

 

[NattyBoy]

Daymmit NattyBoy. Why must you be the voice of reason in this chit. You're too mufukkin helpful.

Huhhh? Dat a compliment lmao?

 

[jflemmd]

I have seen rough reviews on prami and cabergoline, people suggested bromo. Wondering if I'll need it if everything else is good. I'll grab some and just hope I don't need it.

 

[NattyBoy]

I have seen rough reviews on prami and cabergoline, people suggested bromo. Wondering if I'll need it if everything else is good. I'll grab some and just hope I don't need it.

Never heard of bromo for prolactin

 

[jflemmd]

Ok thank you sir. You've helped so much.

 

[jflemmd]

Something like Erase would be pointless until pct because of epis anti estrogen properties?

 

[NattyBoy]

Something like Erase would be pointless until pct because of epis anti estrogen properties?

Erase is pointless imo. For pct, sup3r pct and clomid 50/50/25/25 is enough. Sup3r pct already has arimistane in it, so you shouldnt need the erase, and honestly arimistane wont do much from my experience. Having an ai like exemestane on hand would be a smart choice as epistane is notorious for rebound gyno

 

[jflemmd]

I heard that Is a low dose of clomid and its best to do 150/150/100/100? Am I wrong? I just read that the proper dosing is higher than most people believe

 

[NattyBoy]

I heard that Is a low dose of clomid and its best to do 150/150/100/100? Am I wrong? I just read that the proper dosing is higher than most people believe

Most people on here run 50/50/25/25, if your clomid is high quality it should work fine lol. I'll be running clomid 50/50/25/25 next run but with 100mg for the first three days as a "kickstart" but i'll be running pharma grade this time around

 

[BamBam0319]

I heard that Is a low dose of clomid and its best to do 150/150/100/100? Am I wrong? I just read that the proper dosing is higher than most people believe

Way wrong. You'll feel like a little girl going through her first PMS at those doses.

 

[Audioph1x]

Way wrong. You'll feel like a little girl going through her first PMS at those doses.

That's how you know it's legit haha

 

[BamBam0319]

That's how you know it's legit haha

Dis true.

 

[jflemmd]

It says not to take tr3n for over four weeks, is that more of a guideline? Anyone have experience on this

 

[jflemmd]

Has anyone heard of or used maximum labs ph's?