bobsaget5
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I've been swaying back and forth on this one and need advice. I'm 21, been lifting since 16, but only seriously for the last 2-3 years. I've developed good proportions and shape but it's taking forever to fill out my 6'5'' frame and I would like a bit of assistance. While I find that my frame/muscle shape is quite well endowed, my ability to gain muscle seems less than average. I just had blood drawn with privatemdlabs today and I will have hormone panel results within a few days. I'm highly curious to see where my test stands. I've been suspect of values on the low range and if that is the case then I will be even more willing to move forward with a cycle.
My goals with the cycle may be much different than what some of yours are. I do not wish to gain more than 10 pounds of LBM from the cycle. Several reasons for this. One is that I simply do not desire to look like a monster. I would be quite content to make some nice size/strength gains then continue training naturally, perhaps to run another cycle in the future.
Two is my parents. Never in a million years would they approve of me taking steroids, the only real justification would be dangerously low natural test levels. It's something they will never understand. My dad was into bodybuilding in his early 20s and had more success than I've had. He was natural. I'm quite good at appealing to logic but I have not even been able to convince them of the legitimacy of creatine. They disapprove of all these things. So, running 750mg test with orals is not an option. The changes (good and bad) are too overwhelming and noticeable. It's even harder in my case b/c I've been weighing the same for quite some time now. But I just returned from overseas where I lost 15 pounds so they are expecting weight gain anyways.
LGD4033 was quite appealing to me because there are very few reports of the typical sides associated with AAS. My greatest fear with testosterone is that I will break out in acne, which is de-motivating, and also a clear giveaway of my usage. I haven't had acne since high school. I've read about many users gaining between 6-12 clean pounds on an 8 week cycle with lgd and that is ideal for me. And I'd MUCH prefer orals to pinning. But I'm still giving thought to a low dose testosterone cycle (250mg week). I think similar gains would be achieved. And I really would like to experience the mental well-being a lot of people report.
From what I understand, it's very hard to **** up a test e cycle. LGD on the other hand is relatively new and the reports are all over the place. Some people have reported cholesterol and lipid issues which are worrying. And then there's the matter of suppression. Some report no suppression some say it shut them down. I've read all about which products to take but everyone recommends something different. HCGenerate, DSpark, Forged, and all these others products I've never heard of. Who knows who was even getting real LGD but it's still a real challenge. The last thing I want is to walk away from this cycle with natural t levels that are half of what they were, lose all my gains and become depressed.
sorry for the ****ing novel but I think the info was necessary. I'd appreciate all insight. basically my priorities are:
1) not blowing up/experiencing sides that will give my usage away to my parents
2) not suppressing my natural t
3) didnt mention but I have pubescent gyno. Don't want to worsen that
My goals with the cycle may be much different than what some of yours are. I do not wish to gain more than 10 pounds of LBM from the cycle. Several reasons for this. One is that I simply do not desire to look like a monster. I would be quite content to make some nice size/strength gains then continue training naturally, perhaps to run another cycle in the future.
Two is my parents. Never in a million years would they approve of me taking steroids, the only real justification would be dangerously low natural test levels. It's something they will never understand. My dad was into bodybuilding in his early 20s and had more success than I've had. He was natural. I'm quite good at appealing to logic but I have not even been able to convince them of the legitimacy of creatine. They disapprove of all these things. So, running 750mg test with orals is not an option. The changes (good and bad) are too overwhelming and noticeable. It's even harder in my case b/c I've been weighing the same for quite some time now. But I just returned from overseas where I lost 15 pounds so they are expecting weight gain anyways.
LGD4033 was quite appealing to me because there are very few reports of the typical sides associated with AAS. My greatest fear with testosterone is that I will break out in acne, which is de-motivating, and also a clear giveaway of my usage. I haven't had acne since high school. I've read about many users gaining between 6-12 clean pounds on an 8 week cycle with lgd and that is ideal for me. And I'd MUCH prefer orals to pinning. But I'm still giving thought to a low dose testosterone cycle (250mg week). I think similar gains would be achieved. And I really would like to experience the mental well-being a lot of people report.
From what I understand, it's very hard to **** up a test e cycle. LGD on the other hand is relatively new and the reports are all over the place. Some people have reported cholesterol and lipid issues which are worrying. And then there's the matter of suppression. Some report no suppression some say it shut them down. I've read all about which products to take but everyone recommends something different. HCGenerate, DSpark, Forged, and all these others products I've never heard of. Who knows who was even getting real LGD but it's still a real challenge. The last thing I want is to walk away from this cycle with natural t levels that are half of what they were, lose all my gains and become depressed.
sorry for the ****ing novel but I think the info was necessary. I'd appreciate all insight. basically my priorities are:
1) not blowing up/experiencing sides that will give my usage away to my parents
2) not suppressing my natural t
3) didnt mention but I have pubescent gyno. Don't want to worsen that