Pct question

[afluck410]

Since I know the majority of people don't go into the pct section of anabolics, I decided to ask it here.

Seriously considering using platinum nutraceutical's oxoderm which is 11-oxo (converts to 11 keto)

Anyone know if a real full blown pct is required, I've read countless forum posts about 11-oxo and nobody states exactly what's required. It's usually addressed as barely an androgen.

Just looking for something to help burn fat

 

[mw1]

11oxo is very mild. You would be fine with using Inhibit E

 

[afluck410]

11oxo is very mild. You would be fine with using Inhibit E

Are we talking milder than 1-dhea ?

 

[hamdysayed]

Are we talking milder than 1-dhea ?

I think so, also I'm thinking of adding this to my cut...
I was wondering if clomid is needed.

 

[afluck410]

I have no problem running a serm after, but was hoping this is stupid mild. To the point of barely any suppression at all

 

[hamdysayed]

I have no problem running a serm after, but was hoping this is stupid mild. To the point of barely any suppression at all

I agree with u, u hope otc pct works with that, in for more opinions.

 

[criticalbench]

I have no problem running a serm after, but was hoping this is stupid mild. To the point of barely any suppression at all

I think it is barley supressive, but a serm for 1 month pharma grade costs $4.. so why not play it safe?

 

[BlockBuilder]

Patrick Arnold even states you can get away OTC with 11 ketotest...so take that for what it's worth

 

[afluck410]

I think it is barley supressive, but a serm for 1 month pharma grade costs $4.. so why not play it safe?

Where are you getting pharmacy grade SERMs for that cheap?!

 

[BamBam0319]

Where are you getting pharmacy grade SERMs for that cheap?!

Seriously though... Get me in on that deal lol!

 

[kboxer7]

$4? Cannot be correct

 

[afluck410]

Maybe with a prescription and great insurance. $4 co-pay

 

[bighulksmash]

Cobra extreme 6p did me great .

 

[Dma378]

60 tabs of Clomid for $9, so yeah, it's correct. SERMs are not expensive. AIs, yes.

 

[afluck410]

Then why is RC $50 a pop

 

[Dma378]

Then why is RC $50 a pop

Availability, accessibility, domestic, uninformed consumers, etc.

 

[hamdysayed]

60 tabs of Clomid for $9, so yeah, it's correct. SERMs are not expensive. AIs, yes.

Well damn.. wow how a can noob have access to that

 

[afluck410]

Imma need that hook up

 

[hamdysayed]

Imma need that hook up

Me too bro me too.

 

[bananagains]

Have never tried 11oxo, but I'm currently running Arimistane DAA so and my gains haven't slowed down any. Strength is way up and muscles feel solid. Would recommend. No pct needed.

 

[afluck410]

Bro you're the high schooler that did the vitamin X, arimistane and DAA don't do chit lol

 

[bananagains]

Not in high school. Freshman in college. It's working great for me.

 

[criticalbench]

Where are you getting pharmacy grade SERMs for that cheap?!

Seriously though... Get me in on that deal lol!

$4? Cannot be correct

Maybe with a prescription and great insurance. $4 co-pay

60 tabs of Clomid for $9, so yeah, it's correct. SERMs are not expensive. AIs, yes.

It is not unreal to find those prices.

50mg Tablet
$0.26 per tablet X 30 tablets = $7.80 per month @ 50mg/day.

Now order when they have specials, discount codes available, etc. and you are easily under $5.

Look around.. it shouldn't be hard to find.

 

[yates84]

Op, I'm using oral 11x in pct. It's great for cortisol control but done expect too much anabolic effect from it. It's not cycle worthy solo imo.

 

[Bigdumogre]

It is not unreal to find those prices.

50mg Tablet
$0.26 per tablet X 30 tablets = $7.80 per month @ 50mg/day.

Now order when they have specials, discount codes available, etc. and you are easily under $5.

Look around.. it shouldn't be hard to find.

It's easy to find that cheap
But then shipping is $25 lol

 

[yates84]

It's easy to find that cheap
But then shipping is $25 lol

Buy over 250$ and shipping is free

 

[Dma378]

Buy over 250$ and shipping is free

Or just sign up for newsletter and get free shipping offers.

 

[afluck410]

Op, I'm using oral 11x in pct. It's great for cortisol control but done expect too much anabolic effect from it. It's not cycle worthy solo imo.

Just looking for it to help preserve muscle and I've read it's great for visceral fat

 

[yates84]

Just looking for it to help preserve muscle and I've read it's great for visceral fat

Yep, can promote fat loss via cortisol control

 

[hamdysayed]

Yep, can promote fat loss via cortisol control

Hey bro, let's say I'm trying to build a cutting stack otc and 11oxo and otc stack have ingredients that reduce cortisol is it possible that it can mess up cortisol levels, like too much cortisol suppression is there such a thing? sorry if my question sound stupid..
also for strictly fat loss how would everyone compare epi andro vs 11oxo?