Winstrol only ?

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I wanna do winstrol only for 6 weeks been off for a year now from methylsten and episatne and want to lean out while makeing slight gains lmk what you guys think
 
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I know I just wanna know who's done it and some advice on it I've done morals only and had great results with minimal side effects.
 
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I don't think you'll find (m)any that have done it because it's a stupid idea. That said, if you had good results in the past, go for it and let us know.

Winny is dry and already very hard on your joints when run WITH test. Without test, you will shut down your natural test production and any aromatization to estrogen. You will need some estrogen for gains, libido and for your joints.

My two cents. Good luck.
 
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Dosent test also shut down your batty test so if I combined the two I'd have worse shut down in the end
 
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That's the part I never understood except that test makes you feel like your natty test didn't shut down but it does anyways
 
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If you want to try it solo then you can run Dermacrine alongside it for a better/smoother run.
 
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How bad would the effects of running 50mgs ed of winstrol vs 80mgs of episatne ed?
 
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I ran the epi with msten tho idk if that makes a huge difference but I gained about 12 pounds of lbm and kept it side effect free some ball shrinkage but they were back to normal if not bigger two weeks after the 8 week cycle Oct was aromasin and nolva
 
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Well both of them will dry you out pretty bad, joints will be rough.... dermacrine would definitely help that by raising up estrogen again a bit.

I am not sure about the winstrol, but I can comment on 80mg of epi. It can cause bad cramping at that dosage and electrolytes + taurine will definitely be needed.
 
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Yea I Def took those precausions that all ppl say about epi is cramps woch I was working tree removal at the time and the leg cramps were insane like thought I was gunna doe lol
 
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Epistane will give you more gains though btw. Winny will help with that grainy look if you're already fairly lean.
 
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6 weeks prob but no small to big dosing 75mg ed for the whole run
 
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Good choice. If you don't want to run dermacrine with it, grab a bottle of DHEA. Your run will be so much better with about 100-200mg of DHEA taken alongside the EPI.
 
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Jake ... wat are you doing ? A cut , A bulk, or A recomp?
 
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Just lean out whilst fining some mass nothing huge nothin small rite in the middle
 
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I'm about 8% body fat so not so much leaning just like a good 8-10 pounds lean muscle
 
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Not trying to just cause I hate needles have done it tho just don't like it aybe cause the first thing o ever pinned was tren
 
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Try Triumphalis, Nano Mithras, 11kt stack if u can find it you'll get way betters gains and look shredded. It's like masteron.
 

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I laugh when people say oral only cycles are no-no's when the majority of users her take a ton of prohormones and oral steroid precursors without any test as a base.

Winni only cycle is fine if you want temporary effects, just don't expect perm gains imo. 600mg mast + 50mg winni is a killer cut cycle.
 
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I laugh when people say oral only cycles are no-no's when the majority of users her take a ton of prohormones and oral steroid precursors without any test as a base.
I think the test base thing is catching on slowly but still nobody wants to pin any actual test lol.
 

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I think the test base thing is catching on slowly but still nobody wants to pin any actual test lol.
If you are sourcing winstrol.. get test, or masteron as your base IMO.
 
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Lol, you don't need to tell me that, you need to tell the OP.
 
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Talking mast eq test dbol .... iam getting excited in a bad way ...
 
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I wanna do winstrol only for 6 weeks been off for a year now from methylsten and episatne and want to lean out while makeing slight gains lmk what you guys think
LEAN out,SLIGHT gains...why not Anavar?
 
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I wanna do winstrol only for 6 weeks been off for a year now from methylsten and episatne and want to lean out while makeing slight gains lmk what you guys think
LEAN out,SLIGHT gains...why not Anavar?
 
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I've heard the shut down on anavar is supposedly horrible compared to most orals
 
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I laugh when people say oral only cycles are no-no's when the majority of users her take a ton of prohormones and oral steroid precursors without any test as a base.

Winni only cycle is fine if you want temporary effects, just don't expect perm gains imo. 600mg mast + 50mg winni is a killer cut cycle.
I always thought the same thing
 
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If you could replace anadrol you would use alpha1max by bsl . Much much better. ...
 
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I might just go with epi at 75mgs ed for 6 weeks and just leave it there any advice from anyone
 
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I herd the gains from epi will be more perm than the winny
 
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There is no such thing as "permanent gains". You can lose any and all gains. Nothing is ever permanent.

There is such thing as "quality gains", ie lean gains. Temporary gains are attributed more to water/glycogen super saturation which pumps the muscle. IE: wet gains

Epi and winny will both provide lean gains.
 
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I always enjoyed stacking winny and anavar. Test is a must though if you want to be able to function normally lol.
 

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People run ph's without test you all are just echoes. I ran var alone which was a big mistake and my results were amazing i felt lole crap but had 0 acne and an easy recovery because i didnt run test. If i did it again id run low dose test.
 
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People run ph's without test you all are just echoes. I ran var alone which was a big mistake and my results were amazing i felt lole crap but had 0 acne and an easy recovery because i didnt run test. If i did it again id run low dose test.
Your name is ****ing amazing lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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