The Side Effects You Probably Don't Know About

[IronMind]

This thread is for anyone that wants to share or ask about the safety profile of any compound including research chemicals, peptides, SARMs, and whatever else you put in your body. Before using any compound, please use this site and type that compound in to get studies on it: (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) National Center for Biotechnology Information
Usually you just need to scroll to the end and read the last sentence or paragraph under 'Results' to see what they've concluded.

NOTE: Whenever you see just about everyone loving a specific product, please realize it is highly likely to be hype in order to increase sales. I'm not against marketing, but when what you are selling may kill someone, I'm not going to stand by and you shouldn't either. There are a lot of teens that browse these forums and whether we like it or not, they will try just about anything that is preached around here so we have the responsibility of not just promoting the good, but letting everyone know about any negatives associated with compounds as well.

P.S. This thread isn't for people to bash anyone who has experienced negative side effects or has found some data to support their claims. If you post a rebuttal to anyone posting in here, you better post a study or two to backup your statements.

 

[bighulksmash]

Post some links !!!

 

[jbryand101b]

P.S. This thread isn't for people to bash anyone who has experienced negative side effects or has found some data to support their claims. If you post a rebuttal to anyone posting in here, you better post a study or two to backup your statements.

I believe this is frowned upon by certain members on this board.

 

[T-Bone]

...This won't end well. Good idea, but if this gets going the thread will eventually get locked or deleted.

 

[bighulksmash]

Yeah i like the coffeeeeeeeee !!!.

 

[pogue]

If people would just be willing to have a civil discussion without it devolving into personal insults, ad hominem attacks and etc there should be no problem with a post like this.

 

[bighulksmash]

Whats the consensus with the other sarms?

 

[yates84]

If people would just be willing to have a civil discussion without it devolving into personal insults, ad hominem attacks and etc there should be no problem with a post like this.

Agree with this.

 

[bighulksmash]

If people would just be willing to have a civil discussion without it devolving into personal insults, ad hominem attacks and etc there should be no problem with a post like this.

X2 no drama guys lets be civil


:FUfinger:

 

[T-Bone]

If people would just be willing to have a civil discussion without it devolving into personal insults, ad hominem attacks and etc there should be no problem with a post like this.

That's a HUGE if!

 

[T-Bone]

Anecdotal but I did see elevations in AST, ALT and Bilirubin while using Ostarine at 15mg a day with 500mg Tudca and 2 grams of NAC.

 

[jbryand101b]

Anecdotal but I did see elevations in AST, ALT and Bilirubin while using Ostarine at 15mg a day with 500mg Tudca and 2 grams of NAC.

Study on osta suggested negative effects on liver.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Anecdotal but I did see elevations in AST, ALT and Bilirubin while using Ostarine at 15mg a day with 500mg Tudca and 2 grams of NAC.

What kind of elevations we talking here? Significantly higher values?

 

[T-Bone]

What kind of elevations we talking here? Significantly higher values?

I could check later but it wasn't super high. High though because I was taking Tudca and NAC.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I could check later but it wasn't super high. High though because I was taking Tudca and NAC.

All good, fair enough. You said you ran for like 12 weeks right? What point of the cycle did you get bloods done. Sorry for picking your brain.

 

[T-Bone]

All good, fair enough. You said you ran for like 12 weeks right? What point of the cycle did you get bloods done. Sorry for picking your brain.

I had around 4 days left.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I had around 4 days left.

Sweet. Thanks for the info.

 

[pogue]

I had around 4 days left.

What kind of dosage were you using?

 

[jbryand101b]

Ostarine lowers the level of 'good' cholesterol, HDL. That effect is not very strong either, but in a discussion on Dalton's study two German specialists express their concern. [J Cachexia Sarcopenia Muscle. 2011 Sep; 2(3): 121-123.] "The HDL decrease is still of some concern as this is a proof that there are still unwanted side and not tissue-selective effects of this novel non-steroidal selective androgen modulator", they write.
It seems likely that ostarine, like 17alpha-methyl steroids, causes some amount of liver damage. In Dalton's study, the concentration of the enzyme alanine-aminotransferase [ALT] rose in twenty percent of the subjects. A high ALT level can indicate liver damage.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22031847/

 

[Joedoubledose]

...This won't end well. Good idea, but if this gets going the thread will eventually get locked or deleted.

I see a shirt storm on the horizon

 

[T-Bone]

What kind of dosage were you using?

15 mg per day.

 

[T-Bone]

I see a shirt storm on the horizon

Yes, free shirts for everyone!

 

[Joedoubledose]

Yes, free shirts for everyone!

God dang it stupid phone

 

[The_Old_Guy]

I could check later but it wasn't super high. High though because I was taking Tudca and NAC.

Is this something that would return to baseline and repair, or is it permanent damage? I need to stock up on TUDCA and Liver Assist XT. Think I'll stick to 8 week cycles too. Thanks.

 

[BertBolic]

Ostarine lowers the level of 'good' cholesterol, HDL. That effect is not very strong either, but in a discussion on Dalton's study two German specialists express their concern. [J Cachexia Sarcopenia Muscle. 2011 Sep; 2(3): 121-123.] "The HDL decrease is still of some concern as this is a proof that there are still unwanted side and not tissue-selective effects of this novel non-steroidal selective androgen modulator", they write.
It seems likely that ostarine, like 17alpha-methyl steroids, causes some amount of liver damage. In Dalton's study, the concentration of the enzyme alanine-aminotransferase [ALT] rose in twenty percent of the subjects. A high ALT level can indicate liver damage.

That does not seem weak at all. If the effect gets larger as you increase the dose as the table shows and if the effect of a 3mg dose is a -14.7 change from the 52.8 baseline, then the effect of a 20mg bodybuilding dose should be pretty big.

 

[T-Bone]

Is this something that would return to baseline and repair, or is it permanent damage? I need to stock up on TUDCA and Liver Assist XT. Think I'll stick to 8 week cycles too. Thanks.

Shouldn't be permanent no. The liver does repair itself. I just thought my blood work was a little surprising because I was taking Tudca and NAC with something that supposedly wasn't too harsh on the liver.