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Wondering if a Pheraplex and Halodrol-50 clone will achieve results close to what the original Halo produced?
Yes, no, and alternatives?
Yes, no, and alternatives?
This your first cycle???Definitely don't run two methylated compounds if it is, especially something like pheraplex. Just run halo alone and you'll gain plenty. What's your plan for cycle support and pct? If I were you I would run halo for 6 weeks, 4 weeks is a waste usually.Wondering if a Pheraplex and Halodrol-50 clone will achieve results close to what the original Halo produced?
Yes, no, and alternatives?
Unfortunately I was a non-responder when it came to Epistane. I know a lot of others on this forum got good results with it....I guess horses for courses...courses for horses..ironranger Shoot me a message when you do use it, keen to hear your thoughts and see your results! Interesting that at least one person still has the big stuff!
Do you know how EPI stacks up against Halo? Obviously different paths here.. But for dry gains what're my best options? I hope my liver loves it as much as my muscles
I used it, it was crap.Back then anything could have been in your supplements......mind you whats changed?
Just found a box of OG IDS Sostonal in my stash...thinks its Phera/Hdrol? and something else?. Doubt I will ever use it, will keep it though just in case..
Did anyone ever try it and survive?
Proprietary Blend:3,17-Dihyroxy-4-Chlor-17alpha-Methyl-Etioallcholan-4-Ene 3,17-Dihydroxy-17-Methyl Delta 1,4-Etiocholanone 17-Hydroxy-17-Methyl--Etioallcholan80000 mcg
Thought it probably would be, hence reason I have never used it. Bit of a clusterf*ck of ingredientsI used it, it was crap.
Yup although halo-100 will be available in the UK soonSo now Halo is out, what shiny new toy comes in - SARMS?
Halo-100 for 100 times the potency! I'm sure they'll say..Yup although halo-100 will be available in the UK soon
You can't go off that, it's just hdrol and dmt supposedly but it was garbage. The ingredients were written like that to feign ignorance
The 100 is because it's dosed with enough 25mg caps to run 100mg for 4 weeks.Halo-100 for 100 times the potency! I'm sure they'll say..
Hdrol has 1,4 ene molecule. And is not 5a reduced. You can't have 4ene and 5a. It could be possibly pmag if it wasnt listed a 5a androgen.I was wrong there isn't 4 but there definitely is 3. Every time you see Etioallcholan(way out dated term btw. It should be 5-androsten) has to be a new compound because that CANNOT occur twice in the same compound. It just doesn't work that way.
3,17-Dihyroxy-4-Chlor-17alpha-Methyl-Etioallcholan-4-Ene(HDROL)
3,17-Dihydroxy-17-Methyl Delta 1,4-Etiocholanone(DMT)
17-Hydroxy-17-Methyl--Etioallcholan(methylDHT)
After looking over it more and some researching. Im pretty sure your right and that would make a lot more senses with these funky nomenclatures.Hdrol has 1,4 ene molecule. And is not 5a reduced. You can't have 4ene and 5a. It could be possibly pmag if it wasnt listed a 5a androgen.
Dmt is 5alpha reduced so the delta 4 bond shouldn't be there. Also can't have delta 4 (4ene) with 5a. Doesn't have a 3 hydroxy either. Dmt is delta 2
Dht should have 3 keto group, dmt does not.
etioallocholan = 5a-androst
Like I said, it's just a bunch of nomenclatures inaccurately thrown together and mean nothing.
Thats funny because i have see people say that alot and i also see that "it got rid of my gyno" alot.Epistane gives me gyno
I ran both. It's a lie, og h50 was just that, or perhaps oralturnibol. Point being real pplex killed my liver like nothing else and the strength and pornstar qualities are unmistakableOg halodrol 50 contained pheraplex supposedly
I ran both. It's a lie, og h50 was just that, or perhaps oralturnibol. Point being real pplex killed my liver like nothing else and the strength and pornstar qualities are unmistakable
da main man:
I thought the Gaspari product was found to be like half Phera(DMT)?
my apologies if incorrect/misinformed
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Hmmm....Patrick Arnold:
back in the day i tested it and thats exactly what i found. then a few months later an article appeared in washington post that had testing results from don catlin and it confirmed what i had found
but this was years and years ago and is pretty irrelevant info today
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