- 04-14-2005, 07:46 PM
Well my friend is 24 and is ready to start experimenting with gear. he wants to go on an oral short cycle so he can get a big. He is 6'2 180 aroudn 14%bf. i told him he can do a Dbol bulk 35 mg ed. he wants to put a lot of mass and strength on for his chest only. I told him he can do a 3 day split of chest. Any suggestions the 3 weeks dbol good or no?
- 04-14-2005, 07:50 PM
that whole idea is pretty terrible. he's not very big for 6' 2", he wants chest mass and strength only.... all around i don't think he should be doing anything.
04-14-2005, 07:59 PM
look no offense, but everything in there is wrong .. 6'2 180? he's very small and 14% bf on top of that ... he's NO WHERE near ready for gear .. secondly 3 weeks of dbol only is not a good idea .. finally you told him to do chest 3 times a week?? are you purposely trying to make it so his chest doesn't go ... that's HORRIBLE overtrainingOriginally Posted by zaph123
04-14-2005, 07:59 PM
04-14-2005, 08:02 PM
Ahah sorry i never had a problem like this wanna help me point him in the right direction i told him that my idea sucked so it wont go down.
04-14-2005, 08:08 PM
tell him to either decide to cut or bulk ... if he says he's 14% he's probably more like 18% .. that's been my experience with people's perceptions of their body fat anyway ... if he wants to bulk tell him to eat a lot of clean foods 40/40/20 split shooting for 3500ish cals and to find a program he likes AND NOT TO OVERTRAIN
put the gear away for a LONG time
04-14-2005, 08:18 PM
Train, say your prayers, and take your vitamins!
Diet and training are most essentual for developing a nice physique. Unless you're gifted.
First, your "friend" needs to get his training in order. Training a body part 3x's a week is terrible advice. Muscles need time to recoup/grow/develope. He should be on a regular training schedule for a couple of years before diving into gear, and using it as a crutch.
Second, he needs to get his diet in check. Proper foods, caloric intake, timming, etc.
An all oral cycle is a bad idea. Some like them, however, they probably don't keep (or have trouble keeping) what gains they made. The supplements that would most benefit him right now are protein, a multi-vitamin, and maybe some creatine.
Once he has reached his genetic potential (or near for some ) then he should consider alternative means, such as gear. But, only after proper research has been done. There are plenty of threads here where he can start.
04-14-2005, 08:42 PM
Thanks......for all the advice he just joined golds gym with me and i todl him about this diet. He decided to bulk while I am cutting. We can still do the same work outs right?? He is ogign to follow my workout plan of hittign the iron 5 times a week with two rests. Tomorrow i am going to order him a Whey Protein some EFA's and a multi. Thanks for all the help.
04-14-2005, 08:46 PM
04-15-2005, 10:20 AM
i am going to have to agree....very very stupid idea. You cant just bulk your chest....it doesnt work like that.
04-15-2005, 10:36 AM
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04-15-2005, 10:40 AM
04-15-2005, 10:41 AM
04-15-2005, 11:18 AM
04-15-2005, 11:36 AM
this would be correct IF someone was for some reason going to do a dbol only cycleOriginally Posted by UNDERTAKER
BUT this kid is no where near ready for steriods
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