HGH or AAS or both... Need input.
04-16-2005 05:18 PM
I've read eod injections are the most beneficial.
04-16-2005 05:37 PM
Well at this point, due to all the circumstances involved.. looks like that might be my most cost effective, and potentially least harmful way to run this cycle... I'm just dreading terrible sides.. But for the most part I haven't encountered a side I couldn't handle.
Looks like I might be a guinea pig after all...
I'll probably place my order in the next week. And I'll keep a log..
Unless someone can talk me out of it....
04-16-2005 06:21 PM
Hey poob, are you gonna keep a log over at bb4u?
04-16-2005 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Poobah
No reason to talk you out of it if you're not putting yourself out in any way financially to purchase the GH - otherwise I'd suggest sticking with the gear as the cost effective solution.
Originally Posted by Poobah
I still wouldn't just run the GH by itself, combined with test, tren, slin and maybe a little T3 you will doubtless get absolutely shredded while probably gaining lean mass to boot (as long as your diet and exercise are in check of course).
04-16-2005 08:22 PM
Damn.. i had a long response.. but It got lost.
Nate.. hell yea I'll keep a log there, and here. I started on BB4U, and I learned a lot here. Maybe I can help a bit myself.
And Hell yea.. I agree. I will be running a cycle and probably 2... test enan/tren enan/masteron enan with test prop kicking it off and ending it.. but I'm just recently off cycle... need at least 2 more months off before I start up. I'll be using Slin through out, probably upped calories and doubling up on slin meals during the AAS portions. But it is a cutter, so I gota watch it.. but I imagine on all that stuff, 500+ calories will not hinder fat loss.
Originally Posted by exnihilo
Damn I'm getting excited.
04-16-2005 10:34 PM
I wanted to post this because it doesn't seem like you guys know about it:
Gastrointestinal effects of growth hormone.
Department of Pediatrics, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, USA. email@example.com
GH receptor immunoreactivity is found throughout the gastrointestinal tract. GH has proliferative effects upon intestinal epithelium, and influences enteroendocrine cell secretion, calcium absorption, and intestinal amino acid and ion transport. The proliferative effects of GH may be reflected in the increased incidence of neoplastic colonic polyps in individuals with long-term GH excess reported by some investigators. GH also increases hepatic cytochrome P450 expression, potentially altering drug and steroid hormone metabolism. Current clinical research efforts include the use of exogenous GH as a stimulant of gut growth and adaptation in patients who have undergone massive intestinal resection. Exogenous GH is also being studied in animal models of critical illness where it appears to increase intestinal glutamine uptake, which may prevent deterioration of the intestinal mucosal barrier.
PMID: 10905374 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
It's similar to the grapefruit juice warnings you hear about.
04-19-2005 10:57 AM
I think I have finally figured out my best 2 options.
I was thinking I had to inject all of the 15iu bottle within 72 hours... so that gave me 3 injections at 5iu ed at best. But I didn't do my math.
My first injection would be 0 hour... So I actually have a 4 day window.
Option 1: (600IU)
Day 1, 3.75 IU 00hours
Day 2, 3.75 IU 24hours
Day 3, 3.75 IU 48hours
Day 4, 3.75 IU 72hours
Day 5, off
Repeat 39 more times.
On 4 on 1 off... I would use 1 bottle every 5 days.... 40 bottles x 5 days = 200 days / 30 days = 6.666 months (13.332 months if I get another 600IU down the road which I probably will)
Plus I always have the option to go 5iu ED 3 days on / 1 day off down the road.
Day 1, 7.5 IU 00hours
Day 2, off
Day 3, 7.5 IU 48hours
Day 3, off
Repeat 39 more times.
If I did 7.5 IU EOD... I will use up 1 bottle every 4 days....40 bottles x 4 days = 160 days / 30 days = 5.3 months (10.6 months if I get another 600IU.)
I have to say I like Option one by far the best, simply cause it's closer to a standard dosing schedule... 7.5IU ED scares me... and well last longer and probably with less sides. I'm not up for being a guinee pig I guess. :P
04-19-2005 02:11 PM
Don't forget you will want to ramp up your dosage, start at 2iu's at slowly up it until you reach your intended dosage, sides could potentially be unbearable without. Here is a good thread over at chemical fitness
04-19-2005 02:13 PM
Thanks I'll check it out.. although it will be difficult dosing like that.. since I really should use up a bottle inside of 72 hours.
Originally Posted by Neuromancer
04-19-2005 02:39 PM
go with the B. definitely man I bet you don't wanna deal with the potential nasty ass effects of GH... But if you really want to go with peptides then get your hands on some rIL-15. And for the inhibiting effect of P450 enzyme buy some DHB ..
A. a 6 month cycle of
...HGH at 6iu ED
B. a 3 month cycle of
...1-12 Test Enan 500-750mg EW
...1-10 Tren Enan 400mg EW
...1-12 Masteron Enan 400mg EW
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