Recommended supports with lgd?

[warrior737]

Just like the title says. Who's running what for supports during there lgd runs and why?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Im yet to start my run, and ideally want to run the lgd pretty much solo for 10-12 weeks. Thing is, Im worried about possible lethargy, and dont know if I should just run a 4-andro from the get go or save it til/if I need it.

 

[Dma378]

Also interested in this.

 

[CJNator]

1st run I got enlarged prostate which isn't normal so now I'm using a prostate support. I guess it varies per person.

 

[MTPMJM]

Im running Detoxapure from vitamin world and saw palmetto/hawthorne/coq for supoorts

 

[warrior737]

Thinking if running dermicrine as well.

 

[yates84]

Armicare pro and a test base and you are gtg

 

[NewAgeMayan]

test base

Would you recommend this as a definite, or only if needed?

 

[yates84]

Would you recommend this as a definite, or only if needed?

If it was my lgd cycle I would be using dermacrine. Lethargy definitely hit me as the cycle progressed and I hate that lethargic feeling. It is not an absolute necessity but would be a big help

 

[NewAgeMayan]

If it was my lgd cycle I would be using dermacrine. Lethargy definitely hit me as the cycle progressed and I hate that lethargic feeling. It is not an absolute necessity but would be a big help

hmmm, yeah the possibility of lethargy concerns me, especially cos Id like to run for 12 weeks. Whats a good mild oral alternative to dermacrine? Ive been considering a couple of the Forerunner Labs products, but am certainly open to other suggestions...(and preferably sold at nutriverse).

 

[yates84]

hmmm, yeah the possibility of lethargy concerns me, especially cos Id like to run for 12 weeks. Whats a good mild oral alternative to dermacrine? Ive been considering a couple of the Forerunner Labs products, but am certainly open to other suggestions...(and preferably sold at nutriverse).

4 andro and epiandro are your only 2 other options really.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

4 andro and epiandro are your only 2 other options really.

Yeah, I figured as much. So your first run with lgd you didnt have a test base for some/all of it (hence the lethargy)?

 

[yates84]

Yeah, I figured as much. So your first run with lgd you didnt have a test base for some/all of it (hence the lethargy)?

Correct. I did 12 weeks at 10mg twice and the lethargy got pretty bad both times. I didn't know anything about test bases at the time and really just rolled with it.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Correct. I did 12 weeks at 10mg twice and the lethargy got pretty bad both times. I didn't know anything about test bases at the time and really just rolled with it.

damn...was it bad enough to effect your motivation to train? Hearing you say you pretty much just sucked it up is a little comforting

 

[yates84]

damn...was it bad enough to effect your motivation to train? Hearing you say you pretty much just sucked it up is a little comforting

Its nothing like sd where you don't even want to get out of bed, it was more of a heavy, tired feeling throughout the day. Yes, you can suck it up and push through but a test base would make life so much better on lgd imo.

 

[warrior737]

Starting a run today haven't fully laid it out yet so this info will help!

 

[yates84]

Starting a run today haven't fully laid it out yet so this info will help!

Hit me up if you need any help with your setup bro!

 

[1kerry]

Hit me up if you need any help with your setup bro!

How were your gains bro? massgain/ fat gain ratio...I assume you did bulk on it....

BTW, support supps are a must while on LGD? I have read several times Osta doesnt need any ssupport supps...

thanks!

 

[yates84]

How were your gains bro? massgain/ fat gain ratio...I assume you did bulk on it....

BTW, support supps are a must while on LGD? I have read several times Osta doesnt need any ssupport supps...

thanks!

I gained about 5 pounds of lean mass and strength went up pretty good. Lgd will have a more pronounced effect on bp and lipids. Cycle support isn't a definite but it is a good idea

 

[1kerry]

I gained about 5 pounds of lean mass and strength went up pretty good. Lgd will have a more pronounced effect on bp and lipids. Cycle support isn't a definite but it is a good idea

So almost no fat gained? And does CEL cycle assist half dosed would do the trick?

Thanks!

 

[yates84]

So almost no fat gained? And does CEL cycle assist half dosed would do the trick?

Thanks!

I'm naturally a real skinny guy, you can easily gain some fat bulking on lgd. Not sure about half dosing, not really a good idea imo

 

[CJNator]

How were your gains bro? massgain/ fat gain ratio...I assume you did bulk on it....

BTW, support supps are a must while on LGD? I have read several times Osta doesnt need any ssupport supps...

thanks!

I've read that on paper its doesn't effect any organs and minimal suppression. IMO I believe it depends on genetics on if it effects other organs or not but I'm no scientist, I'm just making an assumption.

 

[yates84]

I've read that on paper its doesn't effect any organs and minimal suppression. IMO I believe it depends on genetics on if it effects other organs or not but I'm no scientist, I'm just making an assumption.

Yes, sides and results are always going to be user specific. If you don't know how your body is going to react to something then it is smart to play it safe

 

[CJNator]

Yes, sides and results are always going to be user specific. If you don't know how your body is going to react to something then it is smart to play it safe

Oh yea exactly, I definitely agree with u. Safe is better then sorry!

 

[sinewave3]

Great topic, was just wondering this my self!

 

[warrior737]

Good info here!

 

[warrior737]

How does lgd effect bp or cholesterol? Any one have bloods to post showing supressive levels? yates84

 

[yates84]

How does lgd effect bp or cholesterol? Any one have bloods to post showing supressive levels? yates84

Bp and cholesterol are both a concern with lgd, that's why we have been reccomending cycle support

 

[warrior737]

Bp and cholesterol are both a concern with lgd, that's why we have been reccomending cycle support

Worst than a Ph OR AAS or similar?

 

[yates84]

Worst than a Ph OR AAS or similar?

No, not as bad as ph/ds but is still something to take into consideration. My bp got pretty high on lgd.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

My bp got pretty high on lgd.

Care to share before/on-cycle numbers?