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  1. basic Test questions


    If one were to run a newbie cycle...say a 3 monther with either drol/dbol at front and ending with either winny/anavar. Whats the best test for a newbie with the least pain and the least injections per week?


  2. easiest too, no homebrew/conversion type stuff.
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  3. You could inject test cypionate once a week. Same for enanthate.

  4. which one is superior? for mass?

  5. what is the average dose for the week?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by UNDERTAKER
    what is the average dose for the week?
    500mg/week is probably going to provide decent results. Enan and cyp are substantially similar in their effects.

    On the whole, it's probably slightly more pleasant to pin 250mg 2x/wk. The marginal difference between 2x/wk and 1x/wk is small, especially considering that 500mg/wk in one injection is going to be a large volume. Moreover, the resulting steadier blood levels from 2x/wk will probably reduce sides somewhat.

    -kwantam

  7. what is the ml to mg ratio? For instance a 10ml vial of test cyp has how many mg?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by UNDERTAKER
    If one were to run a newbie cycle...say a 3 monther with either drol/dbol at front and ending with either winny/anavar. Whats the best test for a newbie with the least pain and the least injections per week?
    no homebrew? that does limit it somewhat but neo-test (test deca) would be the easiest and least amount of injecitons. test e and test cyp are equal in results and both require twice a week shots (rule of thumb, injects should be 1/2 the half life, so for test e that is every 5 days and cyp ever 6 days, not once a week) As test cyp and e are easier to find I would use one of them at 500mg a week split into mon 250mg and thurs 250mg.

    how many mg/ml depends on the brand. 200 to 250 is common but humen grade can be 100mg/ml to 250 I believe

  9. Quote Originally Posted by UNDERTAKER
    what is the ml to mg ratio? For instance a 10ml vial of test cyp has how many mg?
    that depends there's no one set dosage for test. They could be 250mg/mL or 300mg/mL or whatever. It depends on who makes it.
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  10. well...then how do you know if it doesnt say on the vial/box it comes in? Another question.... don't pins measure in cc's? How many cc's is 250mg?

  11. Test Enan and Test Cyp can both be injected once a week. They are much in the same structure wise. So, neither is "more" superior.

    If the box/vial doesn't say the ratio of compound to oil, then you'd need to have it tested at a lab.

    Pins measure in CC's, but the oils do not. The oils typically measure in ML's...such as 250mgs per ML, 300mgs per ML...and so on. That's why it is important to know how many Mgs per ML your oil has in it. Otherwise, you can really **** yourself up using certain compounds.

  12. then how are you supposed to know how much to suck out of the vial and into the pin?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by UNDERTAKER
    then how are you supposed to know how much to suck out of the vial and into the pin?
    Well, you won't know if you don't know how many mgs per ML you have.

    Test E usually comes 250mgs per ML. Which is 2.5 grams of Test E per 10ml vial. This would give one a 5 week cycle if they use 500mgs ew. However, there are some UG labs that make 300mgs per ML, and some blends that have 400mgs per ML. I've even heard as high as 500mgs per ML (ouch!).

  14. cc=ml

    ...sounds like you might need to do a ton more research before you stick yourself

  15. Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    cc=ml

    ...sounds like you might need to do a ton more research before you stick yourself
    agreed.

  16. I agreed as well, research is what I am trying to do....any suggested reads?

  17. cuffs---that is what I thought...thanks for the help.

    glen---yea I heard 1ml=1cc, but I wanted to hear it from you guys

  18. Quote Originally Posted by UNDERTAKER
    cuffs---that is what I thought...thanks for the help.

    glen---yea I heard 1ml=1cc, but I wanted to hear it from you guys
    When in doubt, google will perform unit conversions. Just one more reason google kicks my ass.

    -kwantam

  19. so.....if one had 250mg per ml test e. One would, per say, inject 1cc on a monday and 1cc on a thursday? And, if injecting into quads maybe inject into the left quad on monday and the right quad on thursday? Sound good?

  20. e****lent

  21. Quote Originally Posted by UNDERTAKER
    so.....if one had 250mg per ml test e. One would, per say, inject 1cc on a monday and 1cc on a thursday? And, if injecting into quads maybe inject into the left quad on monday and the right quad on thursday? Sound good?
    Yes. However, if this is your first time pinning, I'd stay away from quad injections until you get your techniquet down first. A lot of veins/nerves in this area. Plus, if you get a painful batch, it'll cripple you for a few days. Go with Glutes and Delts. Good rotation for the few injects you'd be doing.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by WATERLOGGED
    enan
    There is relatively NO difference between enan and cyp.

    Personal preference is the only difference. Twice a week injects with enan vs. once a week with cyp.

    As for it being pain free... all in how it's brewed, for the most part.

  23. as you can see by my questions I am no where near doing aas yet. The delts and gluts have less blood vessels? I would personally be afraid to inject in those places just cuz there so much smaller than the quads.

  24. I meant just the delts are smaller.....how could you even see what your doing injecting into your glutes?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by houseman
    There is relatively NO difference between enan and cyp.

    Personal preference is the only difference. Twice a week injects with enan vs. once a week with cyp.

    As for it being pain free... all in how it's brewed, for the most part.
    BOTH enan and cyp need to be injected 2x a week

  26. Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    BOTH enan and cyp need to be injected 2x a week
    I know PLENTY who inject cyp once a week and they choose it for THAT specific reason.

    I, personally, don't buy you can only get away with once a week but I looking at them proof seems to be in the pudding.

  27. The ventrogluteal site is becoming more popular among nurses because it's easy to find, has few nerves and blood vessels, and can hold several mLs. I can't personally recommend it because I haven't tried it, but I certainly intend to give it a go at some point.

    (There's a diagram for finding the ventrogluteal site in the PDF linked from the pinning sticky.)

    -kwantam

  28. Quote Originally Posted by houseman
    I know PLENTY who inject cyp once a week and they choose it for THAT specific reason.
    There's only a one day difference between the half-lives of cyp and enan, so they're almost equally (un?)suitable for once-weekly injects.

    Having said that, I'd still go with Mon/Thurs, especially if it's in a big stack---who the hell (other than exnihilo ) wants to pin several mL at once?

    -kwantam
  

  
 

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