First cycle: 1-Andro. Final check...

gagandugan

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Hey guys,

i am planning on starting my first cycle in July, so I just want to make sure I am doing everything right. So far, I have managed to gain ~30 lbs naturally, doing mostly full body workouts based on heavy compound exercises and, of course, being on a very solid, consistent high protein diet helped a ton. I am now ready to try a mild prohormone, 1-Andro; I am going to run this at 330mg/day. So, I need some advice from you; feel free to add or correct anything:

1-Andro generally does not cause any estrogen sides. Still, I will have some Adex (pharma), just in case. If something goes wrong, I could either use a small dose of Adex EoD, or perhaps use Elim1nate (Arimistane) at 50mg daily if necessary. Thoughts?

Support: I generally use protein powder, fish oil, multivitamin and creatine as my staples. I could add CoQ-10, Hawthorne Berry, Saw Palmetto and Milk Thistle, since I have all these supplements already. Are any of them necessary in your opinion?

PCT:
I already have pharma Tamoxifen (Nolva). Is standard 20/20/10/10 protocol necessary for 1-Andro, or should it be dosed differently? For example, three weeks instead of four at 20/10/10 or something similar, especially if I include OL Sup3r PCT for five weeks, like this: 4/4/3/3/2.

Possible lethargy: I know some people feel lethargic on 1-Andro. I could use Dermacrine if you think it's necessary. At the same time, I want to keep this cycle simple, and see what this particular compound can do on its own, since it will be my first time using a PH. I'd rather not stack this with 4-Andro, for example.

I know that's a lot of questions, but in my opinion you better do it right, or don't do it at all. Thanks for reading!
 
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I have everything but 1-Andro right now. I was thinking about SuperMandro; seems like the best deal right now, unless I am missing something.
 
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I have everything but 1-Andro right now. I was thinking about SuperMandro; seems like the best deal right now, unless I am missing something.
yates84; Just a heads up, OL is about to drop a whole dhea line! Of course, it is going to have increased absorption that will blow all the other dhea products out of the water! If you are about to buy any dhea products I would hold off for a few weeks and try something new
 
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That's what I've heard, and I'm not starting until July anyway. If they announce a new product, I could wait another week or two, especially if there's a promo.
 

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Run it for atleast 6-8wks. Also keep that dermacrine handy. May need it may not. Also arimidex>Arimistane. I've seen bloodwork that showed zero drop in estrogen(actually raised it by 2 points) from arimistane. It might be overkill but I would still run a normal PCT nolva 20/20/10/10.
 
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I have everything but 1-Andro right now. I was thinking about SuperMandro; seems like the best deal right now, unless I am missing something.
Yep super mandro at strong supplement shop is the way to go. Also check out andro the giant.
 

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