Pro hormone suggestion

[Amrein]

6ft3
217lbs
18%bf

Hey everyone, looking to take a pro hormone. What would you guys suggest? I'm wanting mainly to get to 8-10%bf and if I can gain some muscle that would be great too. I know there is a ban on pros but there are still some available.

This will be a first cycle.

Thanks!

 

[Driven2lift]

What do you have access to?

Orbit has some of the best things around in the US now post ban

 

[Amrein]

Well, really just mutanplexx and flex beast stack wood by dans fitness.

Checked out orbit nutrition looks like they have some good stuff.

Whatever you suggest man!

 

[Driven2lift]

Well, really just mutanplexx and flex beast stack wood by dans fitness. Checked out orbit nutrition looks like they have some good stuff. Whatever you suggest man!

Some great SARMS by Blackstone or Xcel are there

Ir DMZ 2.0 is arguably the best legal PH left

 

[Amrein]

Im buying the Dmz I was looking into that one also. What on cycle and pct should I run with it?

Thank you for your help bro

 

[Driven2lift]

Im buying the Dmz I was looking into that one also. What on cycle and pct should I run with it? Thank you for your help bro

You will want supports on cycle, we have a section for this on Orbit

People lean to saying DMZ sides are mild

You will need to get a SERM for PCT, research this

 

[Amrein]

Is it better than Epi 2.0 for what I'm wanting?

Do I need to run an estrogen blocker along with cycle support? Also do you take cycle support with your pct?

 

[Driven2lift]

Is it better than Epi 2.0 for what I'm wanting? Do I need to run an estrogen blocker along with cycle support? Also do you take cycle support with your pct?

Yes take it through PCT

Better than 2.0 is subjective but I say yes

It is unlikely you will need an AI but you should have one on hand just in case

 

[booneman77]

You're 18% bf... Cut naturally for a bit before you start a cycle.

Also iirc epi2.0 is epicatechin... Not a ph at all.

Or just use the epi2.0 during the natty part of your cut.

I think you need to read about the compounds you're thinking about taking more and come up with a plan

 

[Volvo140G]

NUTRIVERSE has a great selection, if its your first cycle 1Andro is hard to beat, we've got several options..... use code AM5 for 5% off

 

[highlander31]

I just finished Epi 2.0 on a cut btw. Link to my log is in my sig. Check it out might give you some info. I also agree with cutting a bit before starting PH.

 

[Amrein]

Won't a PH like dmz 2.0 help me cut and add muscle?

 

[booneman77]

Won't a PH like dmz 2.0 help me cut and add muscle?

It sure will, but at higher bf the likelihood and severity of sides may be greatly increased. High body fat causes unfavorable natural hormone levels so adding exogenous compounds to that becomes a bad mix. That's why it's always suggested that you cut down closer to 12% (15 MAX) before running any cycle.

Also, the chance of losing much muscle during a a cut from higher body fat is very slim. Your body doesn't worry that it's "starving" when there's plenty of bed still available and won't target muscle until you get down to lower bf and caloric intakes. This is when you introduce a steroid to maintain that muscle and keep the fat burning going.

 

[Amrein]

Nice man yeah I started my cut a couple days ago. I'll do what you said and get leaner first. Although dmz 2.0 is on the way I'll just wait to take it!

Dmz 2.0
Cycle assist by cel (also run this during pct

Now I just need to figure out what I need for pct and the estrogen blocker.

 

[booneman77]

Nice man yeah I started my cut a couple days ago. I'll do what you said and get leaner first. Although dmz 2.0 is on the way I'll just wait to take it!

Dmz 2.0
Cycle assist by cel (also run this during pct

Now I just need to figure out what I need for pct and the estrogen blocker.

pct first and foremost

 

[Amrein]

Okay I've been doing some research let me know what you guys think.

-First and foremost I'm leaning down first probably to 12%-14%bf

-DMZ 2.0 for 4 weeks

-IML Cycle Support on cycle and
PCT

-Multi vitamin on cycle and PCT

-AI estrogen blocker on cycle and PCT

-OsterRX SARM on cycle and PCT

-Still haven't found what pct I want

-Drink a lot of water, eat healthy 2500 calories high protein and carb

 

[booneman77]

Okay I've been doing some research let me know what you guys think.

-First and foremost I'm leaning down first probably to 12%-14%bf

-DMZ 2.0 for 4 weeks

-IML Cycle Support on cycle and
PCT

-Multi vitamin on cycle and PCT

-AI estrogen blocker on cycle and PCT

-OsterRX SARM on cycle and PCT

-Still haven't found what pct I want

-Drink a lot of water, eat healthy 2500 calories high protein and carb

why would you use osta? and more so, why in pct (its suppressive...)?

pct should be your priority. if you dont have a good pct, the cycle is irrelevant as you WILL lose most if not all, and possibly more, of your gains.

what ai, what dose, and why?

what doses for dmz? osta?

 

[highlander31]

why would you use osta? and more so, why in pct (its suppressive...)?

pct should be your priority. if you dont have a good pct, the cycle is irrelevant as you WILL lose most if not all, and possibly more, of your gains.

what ai, what dose, and why?

what doses for dmz? osta?

booneman asking the real questions

 

[Amrein]

Hey I'm the noob so I will listen to you guys. I just want to make sure I get it right and take my time researching before taking. Guide me. What's the best pct and how do I make sure I keep most of my gains?

 

[booneman77]

Hey I'm the noob so I will listen to you guys. I just want to make sure I get it right and take my time researching before taking. Guide me. What's the best pct and how do I make sure I keep most of my gains?

this isn't "guiding you" this would be "spoonfeeding you"... go read up about SERM's, AI's, supports, protocols, doses and come back with a suggested plan that has some thought behind it. We will help, but its not useful for you to just do whatever we spout off. YOu need to understand the how and why, not just hear the info.