Generic questions about PH/PS

[moiz]

Hi there,

Just came across this board, since the topic in quite unpopular in Europe yet. I've got a few general questions, maybe someone can give me reasonables anwers here.

1) Cycle length: Mostly suggested 4-6 weeks, i can understand that for example for 17aa stuff due to hepatotoxicity, but i cannot find a reason for other stuff, like 11-Ketotestosterone or Transdermal stuff for example? Is there any concrete idea behind that?
2) PCT: Is there "classical" PCT always required? I can access Clomiphene and Tamox, but basically I do not want to use them if not really needed. Theres for example the LG Sciences Battle Hardener Kit which includes PCT, without the classical SERM stuff and so on. I also read of 6-Bromo for example, or Forma-Stanzol.
3) Which PH's i should take a closer look too? I'm currently running the transdermals 11-Ketotestosterone combined with Dermahex (Hexadrone) and some Testo-Gel and i'm pretty impressed. For my next cycle i thought about 8 weeks, Halodrol for 4 weeks, followed by 4 weeks a non 17aa like 1-Testosteron, combined with Dermahex during the 8 weeks
4) Is there a good source/overview for (beginner/intermediate) stacks?

 

[Dma378]

Definitely use a SERM for that Halodrol cycle you're planning on.

Some milder compounds like XI KT can be run for 8-10 weeks.

But if you are using Testogel right now, you DEFINITELY need a SERM in pct. This is Testosterone. Your natural production is tanked. A SERM is absolutely necessary.

 

[moiz]

My idea was tapering out the current cycle...

 

[Dma378]

Any amount of exogenous hormone will prevent your natural from producing. Tapering doesn't work. Run a SERM. What's the problem with that?

 

[warbird01]

+999999 on tapering not working and being an outdated method of coming off cycle.

Get yourself a real PCT like:

Nolva
20/20/10/10
DAA
3g/3g/3g/3g
Reduce XT
0/3/3/3/3/3
Then maybe a natty anabolic like Ep1c Unleashed or X gels

 

[Chevy]

Agreed with above statements regarding PCT. OTC stuff marketed as a complete pct solution can't do what a SERM will, don't sell out to marketing, get a real pct or even combine the serm with an otc pct. Do you really want to mess with your hormones with a half ass plan to homeostasis?

 

[moiz]

Hey guys,

Thanks for your replies regarding PCT. Okay, i thought tapering out with testogel/testocaps may work. I can access Clomiphene/Tamoxiphene any "standard" protocoll here, regarding the dosage?

 

[Chevy]

Go with what warbird01 has suggested above or if prefer a Clomid protocol it could be 50/50/25/25

 

[moiz]

Go with what warbird01 has suggested above or if prefer a Clomid protocol it could be 50/50/25/25

Ah, didnt know that Nolva is a brand name for Tamoxiphene... What is DAA?

 

[Chevy]

I'll keep it simple so DAA is D-Aspartic Acid, it's a natty test booster often used along side a serm to aid with test recovery. Also the reduce xt helps inhibit the hormone cortisol from breaking down your muscle gains from cycle.

 

[warbird01]

I'll keep it simple so DAA is D-Aspartic Acid, it's a natty test booster often used along side a serm to aid with test recovery. Also the reduce xt helps inhibit the hormone cortisol from breaking down your muscle gains from cycle.

Thanks for doing my job! LOL

(what this guy said)

 

[moiz]

Hehe, yes thanks all. Ordered a buch of Clomid and 1 glass of Tamox. Will keep tamox for future cycles and do a PCT with Clomi as suggested